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Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan — the two New York Times political reporters who authored the smash hit “Regime Change” about Donald Trump’s 2nd term as president — have been interviewed roughly 3,281 times about the book since it came out almost a month ago.
Rather than re-hash the same old questions they’ve been asked dozens of times, I decided to take a different approach in my Substack Live interview with them on Monday.
I asked Maggie and Jonathan to walk me (and “So What” subscribers!) through Trump’s inner circle — the people he listens to and, as importantly, why he listens to them.
What did I learn? That Trump’s inner circle is very, very (alarmingly) small.
“This entire White House is run by a very small group of people,” said Maggie. “If you are not in the room, you often don't know what's happening.”
So, who is in that room? Maggie and Jonathan talked all about the key players — from Vice President JD Vance to top staffers Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller and even the richest man in the world, Elon Musk.
It's a fascinating conversation drawing heavily from their reporting for “Regime Change,” which just finished its THIRD week at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. If you haven’t bought the book, I hope listening to this conversation convinces you that you need to! BUY IT HERE.
