It seems to me that the Supreme Court has set the "Law of the Land" yesterday. So maybe instead of worrying about what Trump WILL due in January, maybe we should ask what Biten SHOULD do today. I seems to me we don't need no stinking badges at this point. Lock him up!
Frum is badly mistaken. I will vote for a can of peas over Herr Trump.. but..imagine you are an undecided voter. You watched some of the debate. You have seen the before and after from other debates and appearances and it is obvious that there have been dramatic changes in Biden over the last 2 or 3 years. You try envisioning the JB of 2027 at the G-7 or another important summit where he represents americas interests. You think about 4 years of that JB being the leader of the free world and making history altering decisions. Yikes!The thought is troubling if not horrifying. That person will NOT vote for Biden. And those are exactly the voters the Dems need to have to win the swing states. Come on, Dems. This is not a hard one.
As I see it we have 2 candidates unfit for office for very different reasons. To win this election we need to be talking nonstop about all the ways Trump is unfit and very dangerous to the future of democracy. Biden is not the guy to do this given the questions about his own fitness. We need to change the conversation ASAP.
If our choice is Trump or Biden I am Biden 100% . The Trump cult is going to continue to support him no matter what, but democrats care more about the future of the country and if that involves a messy change of candidates mid race that is what we will do.
Also crazy thought maybe the year of restoring Roe a woman at the top of the ticket could be a thing ? Nah go with the status quo it will be fine just like it worked for President Hillary Clinton
I’ve been in agreement for the last several days that the logical way forward is for Kamala Harris to be “granted” Biden’s delegates by Joe Biden, and then she automatically would inherit his campaign financing apparatus and his war chest - which are both substantial. And often times, the logical way forward is the best way forward. Harris has no polical baggage, is an experienced prosecutor who would destroy Trump in any future debate, she’s has the pro-choice vote and the women’s vote locked down, most men of character would happily support her. I can’t think of a single reason why she would not easily win if she were head to head with Trump in 2024, and very likely carry on to an easy win in 2028.
It’s grim reading (and watching) out there for a democrat. I’m not hugely keen on a candidate swap so late in the game, but I agree. If you don’t have confidence in Joe to represent the best of the party to beat Trump, make the change now. We still haven’t had the convention yet.
If Biden should step down now, it will throw the Convention into an incredibly ugly "civil war" and the Party could be fatally split (remember the fight between the Bernie bros and the Hillary fans??? That was a big reason Trump won the Presidency in the first place. I know we're all concerned about Biden's age and faculties, but The chaos of a fight over the nomination, not to mention that unless Biden steps down in favor of Kamala, the new nominee would not have a grassroots organization in place, plus no funds, since Biden cannot hand over his campaign funds to anyone other than Kamala. Basically, this isn't a winning strategy; it is much closer to a sure fire LOSING strategy.
Who is viable in the time remaining? The stakes could not be higher after the SCOTUS immunity decision which is tantamount to a formal legalized declaration of war on the Constitution by the “conservatives” using the Roberts roadmap for a no liability presidential coup.
Biden initially ran as a calming/traditional candidate, but also as a "transition". Unfortunately there was no forward preparation, or evidently even any 'thinking'. Harris was picked more as a 'prop' IMHO, but if she was a serious transitional choice, she certainly wasn't used as such. She has been hid for most of the past three-plus years, and virtually all stories related to her have been negative, with no counters from the Big Guy. In life, you 'reap what you sow', and the Dems didn't plant much for the future.....
I think it was Biden's plan to have a weak VP so he could run for a second term and wouldn't be overshadowed. Because of his pledge to select a black women, it came across that she wasn't a merit-based selection. Since then, he's done little to groom her for the office or put her in a favorable light. But she has to better than him now. Give her a chance -- and give the public a choice.
I watched the debate. Biden was, indeed, not okay. Chris asked a question yesterday that really got me thinking…basically was the debate a one-off or could the doddering, slack-jawed caricature of the President Biden that we thought we knew.reappear at any time? I read the transcript of the debate, and Biden’s answers seemed coherent. The delivery…was not.
I don’t believe for a minute that the guardrails that we once had against a really rogue president are in place today. Independent journalism will be reduced to “fake news” by Donald J Trump. The FCC will become a state media mouthpiece. Independent arms of government are only independent if they’re not under the thumb of an autocrat, and Donald J Trump has sown the seeds of control of Congress. The Supreme Court is already a partisan conservative Trumpist clownshow. And so a strong and decisive President, and as many principled folks as we can possibly elect to Congress, are critically important this year.
President Biden is 81 right now. He is not going to become any more robust and reliably fit than he is today.. Democratic leadership must take a long,hard look at the situation, and if Biden is to be replaced at the top of the ticket it must be with a ticket that can unite the Party, be attractive to Independents, and ultimately, to be able to beat the (big floppy) pants off Donald J Trump. That does not mean necessarily elevating Kamala Harris just because she’s VP. It does not even mean retaining Harris as VP. It does not mean selecting someone whose “turn”it is to run. It must be a vibrant, charismatic individual, and that person must have the greatest input for his or her running mate. And Biden and Harris must agree and give full-throated endorsement to the change. If we are going to blow up precedent, then, we must make it valuable and successful.
House Speaker Emerita and felllow octogenarian Nancy Pelosi has just agreed that it's "fair" for voters to debate if President Biden's disastrous debate with Trump was a result of "a condition" rather than a "one off." THANK GOODNESS. As a Never Trumper Conservative Republican who worked as a Capitol Hill aide to three different Republican Members of Congress, I agree that the stakes in the 2024 election couldn't be higher and that Donald Trump poses an existential threat to our Constitutional Republican form of government that has protected Americans' civil liberties, created broadest opportunities for individual prosperity and promoted the general welfare. I would vote for any conceivalble Democratic nominee -- including a dead Joe Biden. I doubt that any swing/Ind. voter in MI, WI or PA would take that risk. I can't accept that Joe Biden in his unspinnable weak condition and unrelenting aging would be the strongest or strong enough candidate against Trump. Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) admitted Tuesday that it would be fair for voters to ask if President Biden has a condition or if last week’s debate performance was just “an episode.” hehill.com/homenews/campaign/4751972-pelosi-biden-debate-performance/#:~:text=Pelosi%3A%20Fair%20to%20ask%20if,or%20debate%20was%20'an%20episode'&text=Former%20Speaker%20Nancy%20Pelosi%20(D,was%20just%20“an%20episode.”
It’s about time SOMEONE in the Democratic Party leadership started to make sense on this and allow at least discussion about it. Even if it is someone who no longer is officially in a leadership role. Too little too late, but I’ll take it.
I don't think that it's too little, too late. Other than House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, there is no more influential Congressional Democrat than Nancy Pelosi. She just warned President Biden's WH, campaign staff and the DNC to lay off their heavy-handed insistence that it's unacceptable to question Biden's fitness for office. She just created the permission structure for the debate to continue. This is a significant change from her appearances on the Sunday talk shows. It remains true that only Joe Biden can release his delegates and voluntarily decline the Democratic nomination in order to produce an alternative without splitting the party and gifting the election to Trump. I think that the Democrats with POTUS ambition, Sen. Klobuchar and Sec'y of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, in 2020 proved that Democrats can put country and party above personal ambition. They dropped out after Biden won the SC Primary and before Super Tuesday so as not to split the vote against too liberal for swing voters Sen. Bernie Sanders. Will it be hard? Yes.
I agree with ALL of that. My “too little too late” comment was my frustration that it’s only Nancy Pelosi at the top of the Democratic Party saying this out loud. We should be hearing something similar from everyone one of the Democratic Party politicians and DNC leadership since last Saturday at the latest. Also, there is still a lot of personal frustration because was saying Biden’s age will become an issue before Nov 6 more than a year ago. I’m in the Bill Maher camp in this respect: I’ll vote for him if he is a head in a jar of blue liquid, but I’m not happy about it.
A permission structure is needed -- especially since the Biden WH and campaign and DNC came down emphatically denouncing any discussion of Biden's fitness as unacceptable. No one is more immune to push back from Biden's family, WH, campaign staff and the DNC than Nancy Pelosi. She just opened the gates. Fellow octogenarian Rep. Jim Clyburn joined her in legitimizing a public debate. Rep. Clyburn is correctly credited with a key role in Biden's win of the SC Primary and the Presidency. He and Pelosi both voluntarily stepped down from their leadership roles smoothing a path for the election of younger leaders Hakeem Jeffries and Katherine Clark. Rep. Lloyd Doggett is the first rank and file member to call for Biden to give up the nomination. The dam is breaking. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/02/nancy-pelosi-jim-clyburn-say-biden-age-concerns-are-legitimate.html I'd vote for Biden/Harris if he's on the ballot but died before the election.
Biden isnt any better in four years than he was in 2020- the difference? He won an election on the back of two things. 1. He wasn't Trump. We had four years of stupidity punctuated by the Covid debacle. He also wasn't Hillary. Both establishments hate hate hate not controlling their own outcomes. Yet, 2016 saw Bernie get snowjobbed by the Dems and the Republicans get snowjobbed by Trump. Trumped didn't win 2016 without outside help and the simple fact that a enough Dems HATED Hillary to switch or stay home. 2. Because of the Pandemic, Biden had the benefit of NOT campaigning. At least not traditionally, they hid how bad it was. Plus he was blessed with one of the worst fields of nominees to go against in a long time. It wasn;t the best they had to offer then, so why does it have to be now? We have always talked about this being the lesser of two evils. What Trump wrought with his adminstration has come home to roost and quite honestly, I see more people saying they would vote for a corpse instead of Trump because of abortion alone. Now this SCOTUS is actually showing their deference? Its like people have joked, Biden can't be the devil spawn who is ruining the country AND an inept old man. Someone clever enough to have STOLEN an election and yet can't finish a sentence? People can at least believe what they see and hear with him. You can't with the gaslighting felon.
I will still vote for Joe as I am terrified of another Trump presidency. Even if one doesn’t believe that Trump will become authoritative, his first four years were horrific, IMO. If the democrats keep Biden in, I will vote for him. Do I wish he hadn’t run? Absolutely. Do I think he’s too old? Absolutely. This, to me, is a complex issue as to what to do as there is no guarantees that keeping Biden in the race will be successful. If this was 6 months ago, I think it would have been an easier way to step down. Do I wish that had happened then? Yes. As much as I like Biden, he should have passed the torch. One can make the case that Trump can’t/won’t do what he is proposing as the guardrails of our government will hold. After yesterday, I am not so sure of that. I don’t claim to know what the right answer to this is, all I know is that if Biden is on the ticket, I will vote for him. I could be wrong, but thinking that Biden will stay in the race and, hopefully, win. He will step down shortly afterwards and Harris will become president. I read somewhere that one scenario to have Biden off the ballot, would be to step down now so Harris becomes president prior to the election. Although, I am not sure how that helps other than to perhaps “save face” for Joe. I’d rather see Joe bow out gracefully, than lose in November.
Chris I have one question. What do you think the Supreme Court ruling would have been if it had been a democratic president and not a Republican/Trump president. Ask any of the legal scholars that you know. Thanks in advance
I'm so disappointed in President Biden and his advisers. It's clear they are in denial about his health, or they wouldn't have agreed to the debate. I voted for Biden primarily because I was tired of the Trump chaos. Now there will be endless stories about Biden's cognitive decline, as well as concerns about who is really running the country. I don't know if Kamala Harris can win, but she has to have a better chance than him. He owes it to the country to step down and give the public a choice.
Make Viagra and all related and similar drug forms illegal
Make federal law by Executive Order that any man who impregnates a woman who subsequently gives birth to a child must pay for said woman and child’s living expenses and schooling for the life of both individuals or be imprisoned for life.
Make federal law explicit against and with significant prison penalties for talking about, teaching, and any form of religious expression in schools, colleges, federal entities and agencies.
Terminate any and all law treating corporations as “people”, increase tax rate on all corporations to at least 35%, terminate all tax loopholes used by corporations.
Immediately terminate Citizen United and all dark money in all federal elections.
Immediately indict and prosecute the 6 corrupt and paid for SC justices.
Investigate and prosecute McConnell and Graham for whatever Ill gotten gains they have received as Senators in the US Congress.
Write Executive Order making it illegal for any State to impose on a woman’s absolute sovereignty over her body and life. Impose prison time for Governors who go against this law.
This is fun. Let’s suggest more for the Democrats unexpected new found power over the fascist religious right and greedy billionaires and corporations!
Yeah I'm sure the New York Post is correct because they are super tuned in to the the Dems black female base. And I believe that as much as I believe that black female base would be cool with a black female being cast aside from her rightful spot for an "acceptable white lady" and a black male being put in the second slot.
Let's be totally honest. No matter WHAT happens, a certain percentage of folks are gonna be unhappy.
Choice 1: Be unhappy AND not have a Court sanctioned dictator in charge.
Choice 2: Everyone happy with the ticket and have a wanna-be dictator win the election and take out America as we know it.
As Chris says often, we have a binary choice to make. Pick your choice. Pick wisely.
Personally, I would have ZERO problem with Kamala as the POTUS. She's smart, sharp, quick on her feet, intelligent and communicates well. Plus MAGA hates her. But I do NOT see her getting elected, purely on racial and sex terms. So we can all be happy and lose the election, or be unhappy and win.
Winning is better than losing. Those 4 trumpf years ate most of us up alive.
That is it right there. That is what I'm trying to tell y'all that in the year of our Lord 2024 if you believe a smart sharp intelligent woman can't get elected president because of racism and sexism and therefore we have to stick with a clearly not well, not all there white man every swing voter is now asking "wtf are we saving?" AND THAT IS why Biden will now lose the Dem base. This snub to Harris by Biden and Dems will be unsurvivable. Also she would win because (I know this will shock every cable news viewer) but women and many men care a lot about abortion rights and women dying in ER parking lots and those not knowing what a D&C is having thoughts and words and writing laws on women's bodies. And they care about their daughters and granddaughters futures, a lot. A woman restoring Roe could be a huge thing. New (after the debate) CNN poll has Harris within the margin of error https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html
And are you guaranteeing a win? Come on, remember what happened with the folks who were unhappy about Bernie being nudged out by the DNC? Hillary lost in large part due to a percentage of unhappy voters.
Biden stepping down will cause a huge fight at the convention--there will be a Dem Party civil war and there is a significant number of voters (to whom we owe Biden's election btw) who might be angry enough--if Kamala doesn't get the nod--to stay home and not vote.
The chaos of an undecided Convention will hand the Presidency to Trump without further ado. The New York Post is under the Murdoch thumb--how can you even give credence to such a suggestion?
Oh, Chris. You're not going to be making a lot of friends today.
(I agree with everything you said btw)
^^^^What Sam said.
Haha, sometimes the truth isn’t always popular!
It seems to me that the Supreme Court has set the "Law of the Land" yesterday. So maybe instead of worrying about what Trump WILL due in January, maybe we should ask what Biten SHOULD do today. I seems to me we don't need no stinking badges at this point. Lock him up!
Reading parts of the SCOTUS Immunity declaration...
The examples are the most frightening part - they specifically sanction clearly illegal activities that ACTUALLY happened.
Our vote is ALL we have left. We can't let this be close!
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Frum is badly mistaken. I will vote for a can of peas over Herr Trump.. but..imagine you are an undecided voter. You watched some of the debate. You have seen the before and after from other debates and appearances and it is obvious that there have been dramatic changes in Biden over the last 2 or 3 years. You try envisioning the JB of 2027 at the G-7 or another important summit where he represents americas interests. You think about 4 years of that JB being the leader of the free world and making history altering decisions. Yikes!The thought is troubling if not horrifying. That person will NOT vote for Biden. And those are exactly the voters the Dems need to have to win the swing states. Come on, Dems. This is not a hard one.
As I see it we have 2 candidates unfit for office for very different reasons. To win this election we need to be talking nonstop about all the ways Trump is unfit and very dangerous to the future of democracy. Biden is not the guy to do this given the questions about his own fitness. We need to change the conversation ASAP.
If our choice is Trump or Biden I am Biden 100% . The Trump cult is going to continue to support him no matter what, but democrats care more about the future of the country and if that involves a messy change of candidates mid race that is what we will do.
New CNN poll has Harris within the margin of error https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html
Also crazy thought maybe the year of restoring Roe a woman at the top of the ticket could be a thing ? Nah go with the status quo it will be fine just like it worked for President Hillary Clinton
I’ve been in agreement for the last several days that the logical way forward is for Kamala Harris to be “granted” Biden’s delegates by Joe Biden, and then she automatically would inherit his campaign financing apparatus and his war chest - which are both substantial. And often times, the logical way forward is the best way forward. Harris has no polical baggage, is an experienced prosecutor who would destroy Trump in any future debate, she’s has the pro-choice vote and the women’s vote locked down, most men of character would happily support her. I can’t think of a single reason why she would not easily win if she were head to head with Trump in 2024, and very likely carry on to an easy win in 2028.
If Democrats, Independents, and principled Republicans unite behind a candidate, Trump cannot win. If they don’t unite, Trump cannot lose.
Absolutely correct. Can you think of any reason why most of those three groups wouldn’t get behind Kamala Harris? I sure can’t.
Nope.
It’s grim reading (and watching) out there for a democrat. I’m not hugely keen on a candidate swap so late in the game, but I agree. If you don’t have confidence in Joe to represent the best of the party to beat Trump, make the change now. We still haven’t had the convention yet.
If Biden should step down now, it will throw the Convention into an incredibly ugly "civil war" and the Party could be fatally split (remember the fight between the Bernie bros and the Hillary fans??? That was a big reason Trump won the Presidency in the first place. I know we're all concerned about Biden's age and faculties, but The chaos of a fight over the nomination, not to mention that unless Biden steps down in favor of Kamala, the new nominee would not have a grassroots organization in place, plus no funds, since Biden cannot hand over his campaign funds to anyone other than Kamala. Basically, this isn't a winning strategy; it is much closer to a sure fire LOSING strategy.
Who is viable in the time remaining? The stakes could not be higher after the SCOTUS immunity decision which is tantamount to a formal legalized declaration of war on the Constitution by the “conservatives” using the Roberts roadmap for a no liability presidential coup.
Biden initially ran as a calming/traditional candidate, but also as a "transition". Unfortunately there was no forward preparation, or evidently even any 'thinking'. Harris was picked more as a 'prop' IMHO, but if she was a serious transitional choice, she certainly wasn't used as such. She has been hid for most of the past three-plus years, and virtually all stories related to her have been negative, with no counters from the Big Guy. In life, you 'reap what you sow', and the Dems didn't plant much for the future.....
I think it was Biden's plan to have a weak VP so he could run for a second term and wouldn't be overshadowed. Because of his pledge to select a black women, it came across that she wasn't a merit-based selection. Since then, he's done little to groom her for the office or put her in a favorable light. But she has to better than him now. Give her a chance -- and give the public a choice.
Absolutely agree with everything you said. Biden absolutely threw Harris to the wolves.
I'll vote Democratic, but I'm really over him and his ego.
what's at stake: Martial Law 2028
Tump to SCOTUS: just try to stop me
I watched the debate. Biden was, indeed, not okay. Chris asked a question yesterday that really got me thinking…basically was the debate a one-off or could the doddering, slack-jawed caricature of the President Biden that we thought we knew.reappear at any time? I read the transcript of the debate, and Biden’s answers seemed coherent. The delivery…was not.
I don’t believe for a minute that the guardrails that we once had against a really rogue president are in place today. Independent journalism will be reduced to “fake news” by Donald J Trump. The FCC will become a state media mouthpiece. Independent arms of government are only independent if they’re not under the thumb of an autocrat, and Donald J Trump has sown the seeds of control of Congress. The Supreme Court is already a partisan conservative Trumpist clownshow. And so a strong and decisive President, and as many principled folks as we can possibly elect to Congress, are critically important this year.
President Biden is 81 right now. He is not going to become any more robust and reliably fit than he is today.. Democratic leadership must take a long,hard look at the situation, and if Biden is to be replaced at the top of the ticket it must be with a ticket that can unite the Party, be attractive to Independents, and ultimately, to be able to beat the (big floppy) pants off Donald J Trump. That does not mean necessarily elevating Kamala Harris just because she’s VP. It does not even mean retaining Harris as VP. It does not mean selecting someone whose “turn”it is to run. It must be a vibrant, charismatic individual, and that person must have the greatest input for his or her running mate. And Biden and Harris must agree and give full-throated endorsement to the change. If we are going to blow up precedent, then, we must make it valuable and successful.
House Speaker Emerita and felllow octogenarian Nancy Pelosi has just agreed that it's "fair" for voters to debate if President Biden's disastrous debate with Trump was a result of "a condition" rather than a "one off." THANK GOODNESS. As a Never Trumper Conservative Republican who worked as a Capitol Hill aide to three different Republican Members of Congress, I agree that the stakes in the 2024 election couldn't be higher and that Donald Trump poses an existential threat to our Constitutional Republican form of government that has protected Americans' civil liberties, created broadest opportunities for individual prosperity and promoted the general welfare. I would vote for any conceivalble Democratic nominee -- including a dead Joe Biden. I doubt that any swing/Ind. voter in MI, WI or PA would take that risk. I can't accept that Joe Biden in his unspinnable weak condition and unrelenting aging would be the strongest or strong enough candidate against Trump. Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) admitted Tuesday that it would be fair for voters to ask if President Biden has a condition or if last week’s debate performance was just “an episode.” hehill.com/homenews/campaign/4751972-pelosi-biden-debate-performance/#:~:text=Pelosi%3A%20Fair%20to%20ask%20if,or%20debate%20was%20'an%20episode'&text=Former%20Speaker%20Nancy%20Pelosi%20(D,was%20just%20“an%20episode.”
It’s about time SOMEONE in the Democratic Party leadership started to make sense on this and allow at least discussion about it. Even if it is someone who no longer is officially in a leadership role. Too little too late, but I’ll take it.
I don't think that it's too little, too late. Other than House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, there is no more influential Congressional Democrat than Nancy Pelosi. She just warned President Biden's WH, campaign staff and the DNC to lay off their heavy-handed insistence that it's unacceptable to question Biden's fitness for office. She just created the permission structure for the debate to continue. This is a significant change from her appearances on the Sunday talk shows. It remains true that only Joe Biden can release his delegates and voluntarily decline the Democratic nomination in order to produce an alternative without splitting the party and gifting the election to Trump. I think that the Democrats with POTUS ambition, Sen. Klobuchar and Sec'y of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, in 2020 proved that Democrats can put country and party above personal ambition. They dropped out after Biden won the SC Primary and before Super Tuesday so as not to split the vote against too liberal for swing voters Sen. Bernie Sanders. Will it be hard? Yes.
I agree with ALL of that. My “too little too late” comment was my frustration that it’s only Nancy Pelosi at the top of the Democratic Party saying this out loud. We should be hearing something similar from everyone one of the Democratic Party politicians and DNC leadership since last Saturday at the latest. Also, there is still a lot of personal frustration because was saying Biden’s age will become an issue before Nov 6 more than a year ago. I’m in the Bill Maher camp in this respect: I’ll vote for him if he is a head in a jar of blue liquid, but I’m not happy about it.
A permission structure is needed -- especially since the Biden WH and campaign and DNC came down emphatically denouncing any discussion of Biden's fitness as unacceptable. No one is more immune to push back from Biden's family, WH, campaign staff and the DNC than Nancy Pelosi. She just opened the gates. Fellow octogenarian Rep. Jim Clyburn joined her in legitimizing a public debate. Rep. Clyburn is correctly credited with a key role in Biden's win of the SC Primary and the Presidency. He and Pelosi both voluntarily stepped down from their leadership roles smoothing a path for the election of younger leaders Hakeem Jeffries and Katherine Clark. Rep. Lloyd Doggett is the first rank and file member to call for Biden to give up the nomination. The dam is breaking. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/02/nancy-pelosi-jim-clyburn-say-biden-age-concerns-are-legitimate.html I'd vote for Biden/Harris if he's on the ballot but died before the election.
Biden isnt any better in four years than he was in 2020- the difference? He won an election on the back of two things. 1. He wasn't Trump. We had four years of stupidity punctuated by the Covid debacle. He also wasn't Hillary. Both establishments hate hate hate not controlling their own outcomes. Yet, 2016 saw Bernie get snowjobbed by the Dems and the Republicans get snowjobbed by Trump. Trumped didn't win 2016 without outside help and the simple fact that a enough Dems HATED Hillary to switch or stay home. 2. Because of the Pandemic, Biden had the benefit of NOT campaigning. At least not traditionally, they hid how bad it was. Plus he was blessed with one of the worst fields of nominees to go against in a long time. It wasn;t the best they had to offer then, so why does it have to be now? We have always talked about this being the lesser of two evils. What Trump wrought with his adminstration has come home to roost and quite honestly, I see more people saying they would vote for a corpse instead of Trump because of abortion alone. Now this SCOTUS is actually showing their deference? Its like people have joked, Biden can't be the devil spawn who is ruining the country AND an inept old man. Someone clever enough to have STOLEN an election and yet can't finish a sentence? People can at least believe what they see and hear with him. You can't with the gaslighting felon.
I will still vote for Joe as I am terrified of another Trump presidency. Even if one doesn’t believe that Trump will become authoritative, his first four years were horrific, IMO. If the democrats keep Biden in, I will vote for him. Do I wish he hadn’t run? Absolutely. Do I think he’s too old? Absolutely. This, to me, is a complex issue as to what to do as there is no guarantees that keeping Biden in the race will be successful. If this was 6 months ago, I think it would have been an easier way to step down. Do I wish that had happened then? Yes. As much as I like Biden, he should have passed the torch. One can make the case that Trump can’t/won’t do what he is proposing as the guardrails of our government will hold. After yesterday, I am not so sure of that. I don’t claim to know what the right answer to this is, all I know is that if Biden is on the ticket, I will vote for him. I could be wrong, but thinking that Biden will stay in the race and, hopefully, win. He will step down shortly afterwards and Harris will become president. I read somewhere that one scenario to have Biden off the ballot, would be to step down now so Harris becomes president prior to the election. Although, I am not sure how that helps other than to perhaps “save face” for Joe. I’d rather see Joe bow out gracefully, than lose in November.
Chris I have one question. What do you think the Supreme Court ruling would have been if it had been a democratic president and not a Republican/Trump president. Ask any of the legal scholars that you know. Thanks in advance
I'm so disappointed in President Biden and his advisers. It's clear they are in denial about his health, or they wouldn't have agreed to the debate. I voted for Biden primarily because I was tired of the Trump chaos. Now there will be endless stories about Biden's cognitive decline, as well as concerns about who is really running the country. I don't know if Kamala Harris can win, but she has to have a better chance than him. He owes it to the country to step down and give the public a choice.
JB things to do today:
Make Viagra and all related and similar drug forms illegal
Make federal law by Executive Order that any man who impregnates a woman who subsequently gives birth to a child must pay for said woman and child’s living expenses and schooling for the life of both individuals or be imprisoned for life.
Make federal law explicit against and with significant prison penalties for talking about, teaching, and any form of religious expression in schools, colleges, federal entities and agencies.
Terminate any and all law treating corporations as “people”, increase tax rate on all corporations to at least 35%, terminate all tax loopholes used by corporations.
Immediately terminate Citizen United and all dark money in all federal elections.
Immediately indict and prosecute the 6 corrupt and paid for SC justices.
Investigate and prosecute McConnell and Graham for whatever Ill gotten gains they have received as Senators in the US Congress.
Write Executive Order making it illegal for any State to impose on a woman’s absolute sovereignty over her body and life. Impose prison time for Governors who go against this law.
This is fun. Let’s suggest more for the Democrats unexpected new found power over the fascist religious right and greedy billionaires and corporations!
Hey, lay off my Viagra!
I read the best scenario today. Amazingly, it was in the New York Post!
Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Rafael Warnock!
Wow, dream team, Get both Michigan and the upper Midwest states, GA and solidify the African American vote.
I'm fine with that. Thank you NY Post, and I don't say that often!
Yeah I'm sure the New York Post is correct because they are super tuned in to the the Dems black female base. And I believe that as much as I believe that black female base would be cool with a black female being cast aside from her rightful spot for an "acceptable white lady" and a black male being put in the second slot.
Let's be totally honest. No matter WHAT happens, a certain percentage of folks are gonna be unhappy.
Choice 1: Be unhappy AND not have a Court sanctioned dictator in charge.
Choice 2: Everyone happy with the ticket and have a wanna-be dictator win the election and take out America as we know it.
As Chris says often, we have a binary choice to make. Pick your choice. Pick wisely.
Personally, I would have ZERO problem with Kamala as the POTUS. She's smart, sharp, quick on her feet, intelligent and communicates well. Plus MAGA hates her. But I do NOT see her getting elected, purely on racial and sex terms. So we can all be happy and lose the election, or be unhappy and win.
Winning is better than losing. Those 4 trumpf years ate most of us up alive.
That is it right there. That is what I'm trying to tell y'all that in the year of our Lord 2024 if you believe a smart sharp intelligent woman can't get elected president because of racism and sexism and therefore we have to stick with a clearly not well, not all there white man every swing voter is now asking "wtf are we saving?" AND THAT IS why Biden will now lose the Dem base. This snub to Harris by Biden and Dems will be unsurvivable. Also she would win because (I know this will shock every cable news viewer) but women and many men care a lot about abortion rights and women dying in ER parking lots and those not knowing what a D&C is having thoughts and words and writing laws on women's bodies. And they care about their daughters and granddaughters futures, a lot. A woman restoring Roe could be a huge thing. New (after the debate) CNN poll has Harris within the margin of error https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html
All I want is 3 states. 3 states out of 50.
Santa, give me Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. Just those 3 please Santa, I've been good all year. Honest.
Haven't rioted, caused any insurrections, flown any upside down flags, none of that MAGA stuff.
Just give me those 3 states and I promise to give up everything for Lent.
Is that too much to ask?
Pamela, anyone who can give me those 3 states has my vote.
“Winning is better than losing”…..sage words.
And are you guaranteeing a win? Come on, remember what happened with the folks who were unhappy about Bernie being nudged out by the DNC? Hillary lost in large part due to a percentage of unhappy voters.
Biden stepping down will cause a huge fight at the convention--there will be a Dem Party civil war and there is a significant number of voters (to whom we owe Biden's election btw) who might be angry enough--if Kamala doesn't get the nod--to stay home and not vote.
The chaos of an undecided Convention will hand the Presidency to Trump without further ado. The New York Post is under the Murdoch thumb--how can you even give credence to such a suggestion?
Interesting idea! It would be a powerful team for sure.