we really need to set up a betting pool. i was thinking it would have been Rudolph Giuliani yesterday. i could be wrong, but the only recognizable defendants left are Mark Meadows and of course t-Rump.
I figured it would be Ellis next as she was not a happy camper when Trump refused paying her legal bills. I am not sure if this will be enough to hurt Trump yet, Giuliani and Meadows need to flip for that, IMO. I admire Fani Willis as she seems to have a good strategy, wanting to try them all at once, hoping some would flip. If TFG isn’t bad enough, the fact that he has never been held accountable is a disgrace. What a sleaze bag he is. I can’t look at him, hear him, nothing. He makes me sick.
And Joyce Vance wrote an interesting column yesterday, where she interviewed 4 legal pundits/former prosecutors (Barb McQuade, Elie Hoenig, Katie Phang, & Greg Powell) and asked who they think is going to flip next. While there was some difference of opinion (Mark Meadows, etc.), both Katie and Joyce said Jenna Ellis.
Given her rather vocal disappointment that no Trump-aligned entity was helping with her substantial legal bills, this made some sense and marks yet another “little fish” putting serious pressure on the “medium fish”, like Giuliani. And given the financial difficulties that he is under, maybe, just maybe, he’ll eventually flip too.
Probably not right away, but if more and more players with very incriminating evidence flip (like Meadows?), he’s not going to be the one left holding the bag...
Chris, you are missing one connection, now Jack Smith has access to the the confessions and the testimony that Ellis, Powell and Cheesehead have given. What does Smith do with the information?
No doubt the three lawyers were specifically asked about interactions with trump and juliani. They will now corroborate the narrative that Trump signed off on all their moves, further cementing the racketeering charge. Also making likely the federal trial will use all of this.
Forget about Rudy. He is not a credible witness so no one will want his testimony. Meadows sold out long ago, he’s just keeping it quiet until he’s under oath.
I’m not sure how this hurts Trump if he was listening to his guilty lawyers. All these smart people were giving him illegal advice. If anything the message is “don’t trust lawyers”. A sympathetic defense.
He was picking and choosing which lawyers he listened to. He didn’t listen to Cipollone, Herschmann or any number of other lawyers and pros who told him he lost the election. He said he thought Powell was crazy and Rudy was a drunk.
Advice of counsel isn’t going to be a really great defense.
Not sure I had shitty lawyers is a defense when the prosecution will bring up that the White House counsel, Ass't Atty Generals, the head of Election Security told the Criminal-in-Chief that there was no ballot irregularities across the states.
So, the Criminal-in-Chief, went shopping for like-minded criminals.
Observing the observation about “always seems to weasel out of actual conviction”... worth noting that this statement has only been true when elected Republican Senators having to record public votes are the “jurors.” He hasn’t been the defendant in a felony indictment before, that I’m aware of. This is kind of a whole different ball of wax.
Kudos to Fani Willis. She and her team sure have their strategy well planned and it appears to be working forher. This is inspite of what all the Talking Heads have been saying.
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy! Who will be next to flip?
we really need to set up a betting pool. i was thinking it would have been Rudolph Giuliani yesterday. i could be wrong, but the only recognizable defendants left are Mark Meadows and of course t-Rump.
I'll take Rudy, and bet on sometime before the end of this week.
Hope springs eternal. Waiting. Waiting.
I figured it would be Ellis next as she was not a happy camper when Trump refused paying her legal bills. I am not sure if this will be enough to hurt Trump yet, Giuliani and Meadows need to flip for that, IMO. I admire Fani Willis as she seems to have a good strategy, wanting to try them all at once, hoping some would flip. If TFG isn’t bad enough, the fact that he has never been held accountable is a disgrace. What a sleaze bag he is. I can’t look at him, hear him, nothing. He makes me sick.
And Joyce Vance wrote an interesting column yesterday, where she interviewed 4 legal pundits/former prosecutors (Barb McQuade, Elie Hoenig, Katie Phang, & Greg Powell) and asked who they think is going to flip next. While there was some difference of opinion (Mark Meadows, etc.), both Katie and Joyce said Jenna Ellis.
Given her rather vocal disappointment that no Trump-aligned entity was helping with her substantial legal bills, this made some sense and marks yet another “little fish” putting serious pressure on the “medium fish”, like Giuliani. And given the financial difficulties that he is under, maybe, just maybe, he’ll eventually flip too.
Probably not right away, but if more and more players with very incriminating evidence flip (like Meadows?), he’s not going to be the one left holding the bag...
Sorry! The 4th pundit was Paul Butler!
Can we all agree that she has the best looking mug shot? Is she the only one with a sincere smile?
Her smile doesn't convey "deep remorse." I was hoping she would get jail time, simply for being so smug.
BGBill - the last time i saw a smile like that, it was from a woman dumping me.
Hahaha! Same!
huh...? you thinking it was the same woman then? maybe she dumped us both on the same day?
Chris, you are missing one connection, now Jack Smith has access to the the confessions and the testimony that Ellis, Powell and Cheesehead have given. What does Smith do with the information?
The “Sorry Mom” made me laugh.
No doubt the three lawyers were specifically asked about interactions with trump and juliani. They will now corroborate the narrative that Trump signed off on all their moves, further cementing the racketeering charge. Also making likely the federal trial will use all of this.
I want so badly for those walls to close in on Dumpy and start squeezing him like Luke and Leia in the trash compactor.
Forget about Rudy. He is not a credible witness so no one will want his testimony. Meadows sold out long ago, he’s just keeping it quiet until he’s under oath.
Cassidy Hutchinson will talk in court, so Meadows better figure out the best time and place to sing, and do it soon.
I’m not sure how this hurts Trump if he was listening to his guilty lawyers. All these smart people were giving him illegal advice. If anything the message is “don’t trust lawyers”. A sympathetic defense.
He was picking and choosing which lawyers he listened to. He didn’t listen to Cipollone, Herschmann or any number of other lawyers and pros who told him he lost the election. He said he thought Powell was crazy and Rudy was a drunk.
Advice of counsel isn’t going to be a really great defense.
Not sure I had shitty lawyers is a defense when the prosecution will bring up that the White House counsel, Ass't Atty Generals, the head of Election Security told the Criminal-in-Chief that there was no ballot irregularities across the states.
So, the Criminal-in-Chief, went shopping for like-minded criminals.
One can only hope that your last paragraph is prescient................
slithered is a good word applied to all trumpland.
Observing the observation about “always seems to weasel out of actual conviction”... worth noting that this statement has only been true when elected Republican Senators having to record public votes are the “jurors.” He hasn’t been the defendant in a felony indictment before, that I’m aware of. This is kind of a whole different ball of wax.
Will we get to see these videos at trial?
Kudos to Fani Willis. She and her team sure have their strategy well planned and it appears to be working forher. This is inspite of what all the Talking Heads have been saying.