The worst part of the debate was that the moderators DID NOT moderate. DJT weaseled back to the prior question to get the last word in. Not ONCE did the moderators pull him back to the question posed, nor were there ANY Real-Time Fact Checks as CNN advised would accompany the remarks. DJT literally Ran Roughshod over the CNN hosts, and bulldozed his LIES again and again throughout the debate. There were no guardrails on TFG at all and he took advantage of their weakness, and they did NOT push back on his documented lies for every subject since his loss on 2020.
What do you expect from the Cretin News Network??? The best thing that ever happened to Chris (if he will just realize it and stop playing "CNN Lite") is that the morons fired him.
I'm in agreement, TC. It was VERY disappointing that they didn't cut him off and they didn't offer ANY pushback whatsoever to all his lies--which was just about EVERYTHING the felon uttered.
Will you stop? Go wet your bed with the other halfwits in the Professional Democrat Bedwetting Caucus!
Did Obama "losing" the first debate mean Rmoney became president in 2012? Prove you don't have a backbone made of a single strand of overcooked angel hair pasta and get to work. I'm sure you come from sterner stuff.
Thanks for the insults, TCinLA. I have read your blog frequently, and liked it up until tonight. I have been working for Biden since the beginning of the year, actually talking to strangers at the supermarket asking them to vote Democratic this fall. I have made over 200 phone calls since the beginning of April asking people to vote Democratic - the straight ticket. I have asked doubtful friends to have HOPE!! My attitude going into the debate against Lying Orange Man. At the end of the evening, I was sad. I am still sad. I will still vote for Joe and tell strangers to vote for him. He is a better person than Awful Person, and he will be for four more years. I am sad that he was not at his best last night. YOU are rude.
Did anyone else watch the footage of Biden at the debate after-party? MSNBC cut to it live and it was like watching a different person - it was a brief appearance, but Joe was lively, engaging and much more coherent. Where the hell was that guy on the stage tonight? I just don’t understand it.
some ppl just cannot respond to a firehose of lies, disinformation and projection, which is exactly what TFG did last night. Pls look up the "Gish Gallop," technique in many psychological or psychiatric terms.
Go stick your head back up your ass where you usually keep it, you braindead political illiterate. You'll have a fine old timer wetting your bed in that position.
No doubt Joe Biden did not do well at all in this 90 minutes debate. However , President Biden remains the Nominee of his party and he's going to beat Trump in November. Remember when the Access Hollywood tape came out in October of 2016 and Republicans were asking Trump to resign as the Nominee and Mike Pence even wanted to step aside but Trump went on to win the election. The Political Elites can say and do what they want about the bad Biden's performance tonight , let's see what the voters say in November before we get too excited people
"Of course you have a better handicap than me at golf, all you do is play while im busy being president"
Why argue over who has a better handicap? Nobody knows or cares if biden or trump has a better one. But that answer would be an easy win. Instead he argued like a child...
Honestly im a trump hater x2000 and I still believe Biden should win. But man, seing this debate made me loose so much confidence in his ability to win and be president. If I were an average american voter id probably just not vote because I dont like both candidate. But im canadian so.... wont vote anyways.
I respect your opinion but I disagree. Trump has made an entire Republican party supine and subservient even though most will reportedly say how much they hate him. How did he do it? By the same tactics he used tonight. He is a galloping liar, a psychopath who thrives on cruelty, a projectionist of the first order who took credit for everything Biden has done in the last 3+ years and dodged all those pesky questions as long as he could that were would induce too much transparency for him to withstand.
I don't know about you, and I don't know about anyone who can withstand the onslaught of relentless lies, made up facts and taking credit for his opponent's accomplishments. Could you? I can't. And none of his opponents in the 2016 could and Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Chuck Grassley, Mike Johnson, Marco Rubio, Jim Jordan, and that clown car known as the Republican caucus in the U.S. House of representatives could. Every single one of them is Trump's poodle. They will speak behind closed doors one-on-one and tell inquirers how much they hate him, but they back him and await his merest utterance to get their marching orders. And you fault Biden for that performance. He was not a deer caught in the headlights. He is a gentleman, an honorable man, and the best president this country has seen since FDR.
You are a hopeless partisan. I admit Biden has done some good things, but he's clearly not capable now and many of the people who voted for him last time (like me) will switch to Trump, go 3rd party or stay home. I'm disappointed that the party elders haven't gotten through to him before the date, but it's not too late. He's clearly too old and will go down to defeat. Only hope is a new ticket.
Morning Joe had an interesting take on Biden’s performance. As between Biden and the rabid dog on the other side, Morning Joe professed love, respect, and assertion that Biden is amply able to govern. And he has. Did you think the rabid dog on the other side is a capable governor? No, he is, instead, a capable grifter, rapist, traitor.
Here’s the deal. Biden will never be the rabid dog to go up against Trump and the once respectable party that keeps publicly supporting him while privately hating him and all the time waiting like eager, tail-waging lapdogs to do his bidding.
So who are you going to vote for - a man who has uplifted this country at home and abroad by his vast governing skills while having a soft, slow voice and a stutter? Who stood shocked at the fire hose of lies, deceit, smears, credit taking for the job Biden has done? The rapist, fraudster, traitor?
Give me BIden any day of the week. He doesn’t have to wow me for the showmanship the rabid dog puts on. He just needs to govern as well as he has on behalf of the middle class and working poor.
Partisan? Oh, you bet. Give me decency, honesty, ability any day of the week.
I’m shocked people are shocked by this! We all saw this coming a mile away. Juneteenth and Obama walking him off the stage. Robert Hur was right! This guy is not fit to serve and the current VP may be even worse….
It’s not shocking for anyone who has eyes and ears. What is shocking is how long the MSM covered up his senility. Rude wake up call for democrats and their bootlicking propagandists.
The Gish Gallop is Infamous debate tactic used by amateurs, grifters who are paid by shills, and people who only care about winning alike, the Gish Gallop is a tactic in which one person purposefully gives as many incorrect or falsely-quoted statistics as possible in a very short time frame. This forces the opponent to waste speaking time taking down endless strawmen and lies created by their opponent, and is usually a sign that the utilizer is arguing in bad faith.
This was tRump's first and only attempt to debate facts with lies.
Spot on. And the golf definitely weird - not just because Biden was MOST engaged at this point… but also, say what you will about trump cheating at golf… no one believes that the old man standing on stage tonight could beat trump at golf. It was so so weird.
It was such a disaster. Even with the fact checking they did on Trump after the fact where they basically said everything he said was a lie, wont help. I am not sure even replacing Biden would help at this point. I do not think Kamala is a strong enough candidate to be at the top of the ticket. They could bring in someone like Gavin Newsom (who I like), but its so late and he hasn’t had a chance to build momentum. What do people feel about the July 11th sentencing for trump? Is there any sort of sentence that could be imposed that would hurt trump at this point or keep him off the trail?
Look, could Joe Biden still win this race? Of course. The polls are essentially dead even (pre-debate) and this country’s extremely polarized, so even the literal corpse of Joe Biden could pick up, like, 44% of the vote against Trump. But that was a bad performance by Biden, and the next debate is far away. Rough night for American democracy.
I stand by what I said in the thread last night. That was a complete sh-t show. It was embarrassing to the whole country. Are these two REALLY the best that we can do?????
Chris, I appreciate your candor. I respect Jake and Dana but felt like their hands were tied and they couldn't stop Trump from not only NOT answering the questions but lying the entire time. Biden was just sadly not up to the task. I will say again that it was a waste of time and now democrats are scrambling...not a good place to be.
The worst part of the debate was that the moderators DID NOT moderate. DJT weaseled back to the prior question to get the last word in. Not ONCE did the moderators pull him back to the question posed, nor were there ANY Real-Time Fact Checks as CNN advised would accompany the remarks. DJT literally Ran Roughshod over the CNN hosts, and bulldozed his LIES again and again throughout the debate. There were no guardrails on TFG at all and he took advantage of their weakness, and they did NOT push back on his documented lies for every subject since his loss on 2020.
What do you expect from the Cretin News Network??? The best thing that ever happened to Chris (if he will just realize it and stop playing "CNN Lite") is that the morons fired him.
I'm in agreement, TC. It was VERY disappointing that they didn't cut him off and they didn't offer ANY pushback whatsoever to all his lies--which was just about EVERYTHING the felon uttered.
I am so sad.
Will you stop? Go wet your bed with the other halfwits in the Professional Democrat Bedwetting Caucus!
Did Obama "losing" the first debate mean Rmoney became president in 2012? Prove you don't have a backbone made of a single strand of overcooked angel hair pasta and get to work. I'm sure you come from sterner stuff.
Obama was winning the race going into the debate and there weren't concerns about his age. He just had an off night.
Biden was awful and he was already losing.
Go wet your bed somewhere else, I don't want to deal with the stench. Your Volvo is parked outside.
I drive a Honda.
If Biden had had a better debate performance, you wouldn't be having this meltdown.
Go vote for RFK Jr and his trophy bimbo - they're sure to win now.
Thanks for the insults, TCinLA. I have read your blog frequently, and liked it up until tonight. I have been working for Biden since the beginning of the year, actually talking to strangers at the supermarket asking them to vote Democratic this fall. I have made over 200 phone calls since the beginning of April asking people to vote Democratic - the straight ticket. I have asked doubtful friends to have HOPE!! My attitude going into the debate against Lying Orange Man. At the end of the evening, I was sad. I am still sad. I will still vote for Joe and tell strangers to vote for him. He is a better person than Awful Person, and he will be for four more years. I am sad that he was not at his best last night. YOU are rude.
Did anyone else watch the footage of Biden at the debate after-party? MSNBC cut to it live and it was like watching a different person - it was a brief appearance, but Joe was lively, engaging and much more coherent. Where the hell was that guy on the stage tonight? I just don’t understand it.
some ppl just cannot respond to a firehose of lies, disinformation and projection, which is exactly what TFG did last night. Pls look up the "Gish Gallop," technique in many psychological or psychiatric terms.
I guess the AC was too strong maybe? Oof.
I’m scared for what’s next. Biden needs to step aside
Go stick your head back up your ass where you usually keep it, you braindead political illiterate. You'll have a fine old timer wetting your bed in that position.
No doubt Joe Biden did not do well at all in this 90 minutes debate. However , President Biden remains the Nominee of his party and he's going to beat Trump in November. Remember when the Access Hollywood tape came out in October of 2016 and Republicans were asking Trump to resign as the Nominee and Mike Pence even wanted to step aside but Trump went on to win the election. The Political Elites can say and do what they want about the bad Biden's performance tonight , let's see what the voters say in November before we get too excited people
Not only was Biden’s performance bad, but Trump once again got away with spewing his lies. And Trumps knows it.
Most people probably only watch a small portion of the debate and certainly didn’t watch the post-analysis. Which magnifies both problems.
The golf segment was so easy to win for biden...
"Of course you have a better handicap than me at golf, all you do is play while im busy being president"
Why argue over who has a better handicap? Nobody knows or cares if biden or trump has a better one. But that answer would be an easy win. Instead he argued like a child...
Honestly im a trump hater x2000 and I still believe Biden should win. But man, seing this debate made me loose so much confidence in his ability to win and be president. If I were an average american voter id probably just not vote because I dont like both candidate. But im canadian so.... wont vote anyways.
I respect your opinion but I disagree. Trump has made an entire Republican party supine and subservient even though most will reportedly say how much they hate him. How did he do it? By the same tactics he used tonight. He is a galloping liar, a psychopath who thrives on cruelty, a projectionist of the first order who took credit for everything Biden has done in the last 3+ years and dodged all those pesky questions as long as he could that were would induce too much transparency for him to withstand.
I don't know about you, and I don't know about anyone who can withstand the onslaught of relentless lies, made up facts and taking credit for his opponent's accomplishments. Could you? I can't. And none of his opponents in the 2016 could and Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Chuck Grassley, Mike Johnson, Marco Rubio, Jim Jordan, and that clown car known as the Republican caucus in the U.S. House of representatives could. Every single one of them is Trump's poodle. They will speak behind closed doors one-on-one and tell inquirers how much they hate him, but they back him and await his merest utterance to get their marching orders. And you fault Biden for that performance. He was not a deer caught in the headlights. He is a gentleman, an honorable man, and the best president this country has seen since FDR.
I respectfully dissent.
All blessings to you. Be well, Sir.
You are a hopeless partisan. I admit Biden has done some good things, but he's clearly not capable now and many of the people who voted for him last time (like me) will switch to Trump, go 3rd party or stay home. I'm disappointed that the party elders haven't gotten through to him before the date, but it's not too late. He's clearly too old and will go down to defeat. Only hope is a new ticket.
Morning Joe had an interesting take on Biden’s performance. As between Biden and the rabid dog on the other side, Morning Joe professed love, respect, and assertion that Biden is amply able to govern. And he has. Did you think the rabid dog on the other side is a capable governor? No, he is, instead, a capable grifter, rapist, traitor.
Here’s the deal. Biden will never be the rabid dog to go up against Trump and the once respectable party that keeps publicly supporting him while privately hating him and all the time waiting like eager, tail-waging lapdogs to do his bidding.
So who are you going to vote for - a man who has uplifted this country at home and abroad by his vast governing skills while having a soft, slow voice and a stutter? Who stood shocked at the fire hose of lies, deceit, smears, credit taking for the job Biden has done? The rapist, fraudster, traitor?
Give me BIden any day of the week. He doesn’t have to wow me for the showmanship the rabid dog puts on. He just needs to govern as well as he has on behalf of the middle class and working poor.
Partisan? Oh, you bet. Give me decency, honesty, ability any day of the week.
I’m shocked people are shocked by this! We all saw this coming a mile away. Juneteenth and Obama walking him off the stage. Robert Hur was right! This guy is not fit to serve and the current VP may be even worse….
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It’s not shocking for anyone who has eyes and ears. What is shocking is how long the MSM covered up his senility. Rude wake up call for democrats and their bootlicking propagandists.
The Gish Gallop is Infamous debate tactic used by amateurs, grifters who are paid by shills, and people who only care about winning alike, the Gish Gallop is a tactic in which one person purposefully gives as many incorrect or falsely-quoted statistics as possible in a very short time frame. This forces the opponent to waste speaking time taking down endless strawmen and lies created by their opponent, and is usually a sign that the utilizer is arguing in bad faith.
This was tRump's first and only attempt to debate facts with lies.
Look it up.
Stunning. Just stunningly awful. The second he walked on stage I thought, oh this isn't going to go well.
Thank you for hosting the chat, Chris. Only thing keeping me sane.
Spot on. And the golf definitely weird - not just because Biden was MOST engaged at this point… but also, say what you will about trump cheating at golf… no one believes that the old man standing on stage tonight could beat trump at golf. It was so so weird.
It was such a disaster. Even with the fact checking they did on Trump after the fact where they basically said everything he said was a lie, wont help. I am not sure even replacing Biden would help at this point. I do not think Kamala is a strong enough candidate to be at the top of the ticket. They could bring in someone like Gavin Newsom (who I like), but its so late and he hasn’t had a chance to build momentum. What do people feel about the July 11th sentencing for trump? Is there any sort of sentence that could be imposed that would hurt trump at this point or keep him off the trail?
Look, could Joe Biden still win this race? Of course. The polls are essentially dead even (pre-debate) and this country’s extremely polarized, so even the literal corpse of Joe Biden could pick up, like, 44% of the vote against Trump. But that was a bad performance by Biden, and the next debate is far away. Rough night for American democracy.
I stand by what I said in the thread last night. That was a complete sh-t show. It was embarrassing to the whole country. Are these two REALLY the best that we can do?????
Chris, I appreciate your candor. I respect Jake and Dana but felt like their hands were tied and they couldn't stop Trump from not only NOT answering the questions but lying the entire time. Biden was just sadly not up to the task. I will say again that it was a waste of time and now democrats are scrambling...not a good place to be.