I wish just one of these spineless GOP cowards would stand up and tell the truth. If only DeSantis or Haley would say, "If you vote for Trump, you're an idiot! But if you want to back a loser, that's your choice. We'll just have to live with another 4 years of Biden!"
You are right on all counts, Chris...but I cannot envision Haley as a potential VP candidate. I don't think Trump WANTS a vice president. He's the whole show...and it IS a show.
Nikki Haley will NEVER be the vice-presidential pick of Donald J Trump. Trump knows his base, and he knows that his MAGAs will not appreciate a woman, much less a brown woman, on his ticket. If Haley wants any sort of meaningful political future, she should express full-throated criticism of his behaviors,she should stop comparing any of his legal woes to anything about Joe Biden, and embrace a platform that is fiscally prudent and socially moderate. Be the conservative she says that she is. 2024 is a lost cause for Haley, but there’s always 2028……
And she should start being honest about the history of slavery in America as well as Racism in America. Most Americans will love her for that honesty. After all most Americans are not racist. They electEd Barack Obama twice and Obama was not afraid to say there is still racism in America
By 2028, regardless of the 2024 result, the GOP will be worse than they are, because if they lose in 2024, they'll be fighting each other for the table scraps. If they win in 2024, there won't be a 2028 election to be concerned about.
In addition to Chris's "call-out" on Nikki's cowardness on Trump's legal issues, more egregious is her recent interview on FOX Entertainment, claiming Racism is not an American issue!!!!
For someone who grew up in a "barely-former" Jim Crow state that was the first to secede from the Union, her statement is appallingly ignorant (but then see was educated there), but perhaps thought to be politically astute. Sheer Cowardice.
~ Attitude of colonists towards Native Americans from the beginning until today,
~ Slavery in both the north and south from 1620s to 1860s, until Constitutionally outlawed.
~ Consistent prejudice and second-class treatment in both Free states and Slave states was ever present in American history.
~ Race riots in Los Angeles between Hispanics and white servicemen.
~ Having to pass laws eliminating Separate and Equal in the 1960s (both north and south)
~ Black and Hispanic race riots and marches in cities in every part of America in the 1960s and 1970s.
The Jim Crow era from the 1870s through the 1960s separated races, but that's not racism according to Nikki, she who grew up and "had some black friends."
Because of her Indian Brahmin class roots, Nikki can "pass" (a term used when racism closed doors in all aspects of life.) as was the saying when she was a kid. Perhaps she didn't experience racism, but she would have been blind to have not seen it in her early life. Nikki "had some black friends," so there was no racism in her experience.
She proves more and more that while not even close to being as vile as Trump, she is just as weak a leader as is he in upholding the virtues and reality of America passed down (with great difficulty at times) through the history of our country.
One Last Point.
At a presentation in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (who actually did exist and is not a myth as offered by some right-wing pundits) a professor from Purdue University offered the keynote address on MLH Day about "Color Blindness," which he sees as too prevalent in our country.
His point was simple.
If it is comfortable to believe that race is no longer an issue and we need to move on as equals, let's take a moment for a thought experiment.
He invited those whites (about half of the 500-plus in audience) to stand up if they would exchange their current day-to-day life and economic standing with a Black person of equal stature.
No one stood.
His point: if White America is so color blind, such an exchange would be readily accepted by Whites.
I used to equally despise all members of the MAGA cult but have lately come to realize that I am wrong. At least the average Trump voter seems to truly believe in him and the MAGA movement. The party leaders like Haley know better but are willing to throw away their country, their morals, and any sense of decency to remain in power. They are disgusting
No current or former GOP candidate this cycle will be the VP. It's Gov Noem's to lose.
Haley is fooling herself to think she is in that conversation. She needs to quit hedging. I will support Haley as long as she is in the race. If it's Trump, I'll support the most electable alternative. If that's Biden, so be it. Too much at stake.
Respectfully, I'm not sure why you expected more from Haley at this point. She thought January 6 was terrible but then backtracked. She wouldn't run against Trump and then she did. She won't say the civil war was about slavery.
And if you want an insider's view of the Political/Evangelical cadre, read Tim Alberta's "The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism."
The fact that over thirty percent of self-described "Evangelicals" never attend church is pretty much a giveaway.
Here’s what galls me even more about her comments than anything else: “innocent until proven guilty”. This is a civil case, so the word “guilty” is generally not correct, BUT a jury of our peers, reviewing all of the facts presented in court and admitted as evidence, found in Carroll’s favor. In other words, like his NY fraud trial, he has ALREADY been found to be “guilty as charged” for sexual abuse and defamation, and Carroll II is about what ADDITIONAL damages Trump owes. Period. (And even “sexual abuse”, instead of “rape”, lets Trump off easy, because of NY State’s definition of rape, ie penetration by a penis, they couldn’t absolutely confirm that, without a rape kit and semen having been collected...)
On its surface, to anyone that’s truly not paying attention, this sounds reasonable, but it is disingenuous at the least and blatant lying at the worst.
Trump will not select a potential VP who might, at some point, say no to him, or publicly disagree with anything Trump wants or says. He will want someone who will not do what Mike Pence did on January 6, 2021. I sense this will be the most important qualification, if not the only qualification, of any potential VP candidate. I do not see how Trump could ever trust Haley this much.
The cowardice of the GOP to stand up for what’s right and the good of America is going to send us directly into a dictatorship where America, the experiment, the country, the idea will no longer exist.
Hey, the trump appointed Ass. Justices may soon be taking care of that--the Stench Court is hearing arguments on the newest case that has every corporation in the country salivating. The Supremes will very likely gut the EPA's ability to protect the water and land. A decision which will engender the probability that it will soon be open season on every other regulatory agency that protects American citizens from corporate predation and deliberate malfeasance and pollution and goodness what all else.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well, I have others. --Groucho Marx
We live in interesting times.
I wish just one of these spineless GOP cowards would stand up and tell the truth. If only DeSantis or Haley would say, "If you vote for Trump, you're an idiot! But if you want to back a loser, that's your choice. We'll just have to live with another 4 years of Biden!"
THIS^^
You are right on all counts, Chris...but I cannot envision Haley as a potential VP candidate. I don't think Trump WANTS a vice president. He's the whole show...and it IS a show.
I will be shocked if she is VP. Aside from everything else, he won’t pick her b/c she will take the spotlight from him.
Exactly, he needs Mannequin Mike 2.0.
Anyone who has any media presence cannot be a candidate.
Nikki Haley will NEVER be the vice-presidential pick of Donald J Trump. Trump knows his base, and he knows that his MAGAs will not appreciate a woman, much less a brown woman, on his ticket. If Haley wants any sort of meaningful political future, she should express full-throated criticism of his behaviors,she should stop comparing any of his legal woes to anything about Joe Biden, and embrace a platform that is fiscally prudent and socially moderate. Be the conservative she says that she is. 2024 is a lost cause for Haley, but there’s always 2028……
And she should start being honest about the history of slavery in America as well as Racism in America. Most Americans will love her for that honesty. After all most Americans are not racist. They electEd Barack Obama twice and Obama was not afraid to say there is still racism in America
By 2028, regardless of the 2024 result, the GOP will be worse than they are, because if they lose in 2024, they'll be fighting each other for the table scraps. If they win in 2024, there won't be a 2028 election to be concerned about.
RE: Nikki and the Absence of Racism in America
In addition to Chris's "call-out" on Nikki's cowardness on Trump's legal issues, more egregious is her recent interview on FOX Entertainment, claiming Racism is not an American issue!!!!
For someone who grew up in a "barely-former" Jim Crow state that was the first to secede from the Union, her statement is appallingly ignorant (but then see was educated there), but perhaps thought to be politically astute. Sheer Cowardice.
~ Attitude of colonists towards Native Americans from the beginning until today,
~ Slavery in both the north and south from 1620s to 1860s, until Constitutionally outlawed.
~ Consistent prejudice and second-class treatment in both Free states and Slave states was ever present in American history.
~ Race riots in Los Angeles between Hispanics and white servicemen.
~ Having to pass laws eliminating Separate and Equal in the 1960s (both north and south)
~ Black and Hispanic race riots and marches in cities in every part of America in the 1960s and 1970s.
The Jim Crow era from the 1870s through the 1960s separated races, but that's not racism according to Nikki, she who grew up and "had some black friends."
Because of her Indian Brahmin class roots, Nikki can "pass" (a term used when racism closed doors in all aspects of life.) as was the saying when she was a kid. Perhaps she didn't experience racism, but she would have been blind to have not seen it in her early life. Nikki "had some black friends," so there was no racism in her experience.
She proves more and more that while not even close to being as vile as Trump, she is just as weak a leader as is he in upholding the virtues and reality of America passed down (with great difficulty at times) through the history of our country.
One Last Point.
At a presentation in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (who actually did exist and is not a myth as offered by some right-wing pundits) a professor from Purdue University offered the keynote address on MLH Day about "Color Blindness," which he sees as too prevalent in our country.
His point was simple.
If it is comfortable to believe that race is no longer an issue and we need to move on as equals, let's take a moment for a thought experiment.
He invited those whites (about half of the 500-plus in audience) to stand up if they would exchange their current day-to-day life and economic standing with a Black person of equal stature.
No one stood.
His point: if White America is so color blind, such an exchange would be readily accepted by Whites.
I used to equally despise all members of the MAGA cult but have lately come to realize that I am wrong. At least the average Trump voter seems to truly believe in him and the MAGA movement. The party leaders like Haley know better but are willing to throw away their country, their morals, and any sense of decency to remain in power. They are disgusting
No current or former GOP candidate this cycle will be the VP. It's Gov Noem's to lose.
Haley is fooling herself to think she is in that conversation. She needs to quit hedging. I will support Haley as long as she is in the race. If it's Trump, I'll support the most electable alternative. If that's Biden, so be it. Too much at stake.
Respectfully, I'm not sure why you expected more from Haley at this point. She thought January 6 was terrible but then backtracked. She wouldn't run against Trump and then she did. She won't say the civil war was about slavery.
She also publicly believes, according to her statement on Monday, that "America has never been a racist country."
I once again have to recommend Mark Leibovich's book "Thank You For Your Servitude," which is all about the cowardice of DC. It's infuriating.
And if you want an insider's view of the Political/Evangelical cadre, read Tim Alberta's "The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism."
The fact that over thirty percent of self-described "Evangelicals" never attend church is pretty much a giveaway.
Haley is soooooo not what people want to think she is. In answer to her "answer" about Trump and the sex case, HE HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY!
This is right down there with her statement on Monday that "America has never been a racist country."
Somehow, that one - which is as bad as slavery didn't cause the Civil War - has flown under the radar operated by the Pundit Industrial Complex.
Nikki Haley is a contemporary Republican, and in the contemporary Republican Party, there. are. no. Good. Republicans.
Here’s what galls me even more about her comments than anything else: “innocent until proven guilty”. This is a civil case, so the word “guilty” is generally not correct, BUT a jury of our peers, reviewing all of the facts presented in court and admitted as evidence, found in Carroll’s favor. In other words, like his NY fraud trial, he has ALREADY been found to be “guilty as charged” for sexual abuse and defamation, and Carroll II is about what ADDITIONAL damages Trump owes. Period. (And even “sexual abuse”, instead of “rape”, lets Trump off easy, because of NY State’s definition of rape, ie penetration by a penis, they couldn’t absolutely confirm that, without a rape kit and semen having been collected...)
On its surface, to anyone that’s truly not paying attention, this sounds reasonable, but it is disingenuous at the least and blatant lying at the worst.
Can’t imagine wanting a job so much that I would do something so pathetic
Trump will not select a potential VP who might, at some point, say no to him, or publicly disagree with anything Trump wants or says. He will want someone who will not do what Mike Pence did on January 6, 2021. I sense this will be the most important qualification, if not the only qualification, of any potential VP candidate. I do not see how Trump could ever trust Haley this much.
The cowardice of the GOP to stand up for what’s right and the good of America is going to send us directly into a dictatorship where America, the experiment, the country, the idea will no longer exist.
Hey, the trump appointed Ass. Justices may soon be taking care of that--the Stench Court is hearing arguments on the newest case that has every corporation in the country salivating. The Supremes will very likely gut the EPA's ability to protect the water and land. A decision which will engender the probability that it will soon be open season on every other regulatory agency that protects American citizens from corporate predation and deliberate malfeasance and pollution and goodness what all else.
Does Nikki offer the same I'm not a lawyer shtick when asked about the Trump criminal charges?