I'd like to see the crosstabs with education levels because I suspect this correlates with women being more highly educated - but it could also be the whole "we don't want the government controlling our bodies" thing (among other things)
Women are moving liberal. Surprise? No. If anyone was paying attention on Jan 21, 2017, they could have seen this coming. The over 1 million member Women’s March in Washington the day after Trump’s inauguration (I was there, proud to have this on my life resume), and the many more millions who marched in cities big and small across the country (and around the world) should have served as a 2x4 slap up side the head that women weren’t happy.
And what happened since then? Lots, but one in particular. The Dobbs decision will affect this younger group of women more than any other age bracket. Many of them are now fearful of even getting pregnant - since they know that a directive from some far off state legislature will have priority over their health.
My dad told me that people get more conservative as they get older. He really committed to that with the Clinton to Trump pipeline (Trump in 2020 was his first vote for a Republican since Reagan in 1980, his first election). But I think I’ve only got more liberal as time has gone on. I don’t know how you can hear about deaths related to a lack of abortion care (RIP Amanda Thurman) and still be okay aligning with the GOP.
I'd be interested to know how accurate that theory is. As I age I am getting more liberal. I see great pain in the world and want to "fix" it. I want my kids and grandkids, granddaughters in particular, to grow up in a better, kinder, more just world. And, at least from the current republican leadership, it appears they couldn't care less about anything other than power and money.
I know that is a slanted view. I know that many Republicans care...but it sure doesn't seem like it.
To be fair, my dad said this to me when I was in high school. So sometime between 2003 and 2007! I think it held up a bit in the “old times” before social media and the internet made the world hyper connected. People generally got more conservative (at least economically) as they bought property and started a family. But I think with the way politics are right now and how very online many of us are it’s hard for any of those trends to remain stable.
I absolutely got more liberal with age (now 63). I grew up and well into early 40s was definitely a Republican. Then really took a look at who was trying to help the least fortunate in our society and it was a no-brainer to flip to Democrat. Becoming a father and raising my kids was a key driver plus the candidacy of Obama, who I super admire as a father, husband, politician.
I think it would be more fair to say that people get more financially conservative as they get older. Also, raising kids and realizing the stability that is necessary for the grandchildren compared to our youthful ability to do as we please can affect how we see policy, but I can guarentee that most don't want the state in their doctor's office regardless of how they feel financially. I think that is why it should be "It's abortion rights, stupid" and not "It's the economy, stupid". Times have changed! Let's hope it works!
Women—young or otherwise—are not “getting” much more liberal. They are becoming more aware of their worth and confident in their right to be respected. That shows up as “liberal” only because the system in which they live has been so restrictive and malignant
I wonder if there's any correlation between these numbers and the fact that young people are not getting married at the same rate they used to, and are waiting longer to get married.
I don’t have the numbers at hand but the research I have read is that women are increasingly outperforming young men educationally. Scott Galloway talks about the way young men are falling behind. In my daughter’s law class at the University of Minnesota there were more women than men. She had also considered medical school 10 years ago and I saw that many medical schools also were admitting more women than men. Young men’s brains mature more slowly to their disadvantage academically. Women have become much more competitive. Galloway and others talk about how many young men are becoming disaffected and angry because they feel left behind. The right wing is really targeting this group.
Based totally on my daughters, I am not surprised! I sometimes describe my youngest daughter as an anarchist! Gaza is a HUGE issue for her. My oldest daughtyer--just slightly above this demographic, still liberal but not like her sister!
My thought is that these are the people who have seen their freedoms and rights under assault. They resonate with The Handmaid's Tale. They can see it!
Not the question is, how will it shape their vote? Will they vote on these issues? November will tell!
Wondering, if you know, the percentage of the electorate (those who vote or have voted) in that age and gender category? Young folks are traditionally the least likely to vote. Interesting to see how important those voters are statistically.
Good question Dutch. I have said all along, this election will depend on getting out the vote, and especially young women. If democrats can get young people out to vote in greater numbers they can win this election.
Yes, absolutely to a degree Doug. It also depends on where are they located. If young women come out and vote in force in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Georgia, and maybe Arizona and North Carolina - great for the Dems. If there is a bump in young women voting in California, New York, Washington, Oregon .... not so good for the dems, cuz these states are already a lock for the dems.
A bump up in Democratic voting in blue states isn't bad (or "not so good"). It can help on down ballot races and ballot questions. But, yes, for the presidential race we certainly want that increased turn out in swing states.
I hear quite a bit about being a liberal vs conservative. Why is it that people feel that being a liberal is such a bad thing compared to being a conservative? I believe in having rules and regulations as well as boundaries. I want less government in what I do, but I want the government to govern, if that makes sense. Would you provide your take?
I am proud to say that as a 73 year old woman, I have always been and will forever be a liberal. Maybe it’s because my mother always worked and I never experienced her in the “traditional mother” role, or that she always encouraged me to think for myself, or that both my parents allowed me to read what I wanted, go to college wherever I wanted to and study what I wanted. Whatever it was, I’ve always leaned toward new ideas and ways of thinking. Even when I was younger I never understood people who proclaimed “The old ways are better”, “This is how we’ve always done it”,
“Don’t try new stuff, because you don’t know what might happen”. Nope…not for me. I spent my college years marching against the Vietnam War, for Migrant Rights, Womens Rights, & more. I’ve never voted for the “conservative” …and I’m certainly not going to start now!
Woman are and have been bringing their daughters up to "be anything they want to become. Sons have not enjoyed their mothers working outside the home and many now want them to be stay at home Moms.
I've said it on your Substack several times Chris...but today it bears saying again: It is the women of this country who will decide this election. Of course women are more liberal in their outlooks than men. We've had to be. We are the multitaskers of our families, and we are accustomed to being open to the most viable solution to everyday challenges, whatever may present itself on any given day.
I've also said it on your Substack several times, but today it bears saying again: Reproductive rights are THE most important issue on the ballot for the election. To recall the words of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, "Reproductive rights center on a woman’s autonomy to determine her life’s course, and thus to enjoy equal citizenship stature.”
It takes the willingness of a woman to see things from this perspective...it can be called liberal, or it can be called open-minded and sensible...and it will take a woman president to bring the freedom of reproductive rights to fruition.
I'd like to see the crosstabs with education levels because I suspect this correlates with women being more highly educated - but it could also be the whole "we don't want the government controlling our bodies" thing (among other things)
Women are moving liberal. Surprise? No. If anyone was paying attention on Jan 21, 2017, they could have seen this coming. The over 1 million member Women’s March in Washington the day after Trump’s inauguration (I was there, proud to have this on my life resume), and the many more millions who marched in cities big and small across the country (and around the world) should have served as a 2x4 slap up side the head that women weren’t happy.
And what happened since then? Lots, but one in particular. The Dobbs decision will affect this younger group of women more than any other age bracket. Many of them are now fearful of even getting pregnant - since they know that a directive from some far off state legislature will have priority over their health.
My dad told me that people get more conservative as they get older. He really committed to that with the Clinton to Trump pipeline (Trump in 2020 was his first vote for a Republican since Reagan in 1980, his first election). But I think I’ve only got more liberal as time has gone on. I don’t know how you can hear about deaths related to a lack of abortion care (RIP Amanda Thurman) and still be okay aligning with the GOP.
I'd be interested to know how accurate that theory is. As I age I am getting more liberal. I see great pain in the world and want to "fix" it. I want my kids and grandkids, granddaughters in particular, to grow up in a better, kinder, more just world. And, at least from the current republican leadership, it appears they couldn't care less about anything other than power and money.
I know that is a slanted view. I know that many Republicans care...but it sure doesn't seem like it.
I’m an optimist and think overall things are trending in the right direction, but we’re in the growing pains period unfortunately!
To be fair, my dad said this to me when I was in high school. So sometime between 2003 and 2007! I think it held up a bit in the “old times” before social media and the internet made the world hyper connected. People generally got more conservative (at least economically) as they bought property and started a family. But I think with the way politics are right now and how very online many of us are it’s hard for any of those trends to remain stable.
I absolutely got more liberal with age (now 63). I grew up and well into early 40s was definitely a Republican. Then really took a look at who was trying to help the least fortunate in our society and it was a no-brainer to flip to Democrat. Becoming a father and raising my kids was a key driver plus the candidacy of Obama, who I super admire as a father, husband, politician.
Couldn't agree more. I'm a little older (70) but I had nearly the same experience.
I think it would be more fair to say that people get more financially conservative as they get older. Also, raising kids and realizing the stability that is necessary for the grandchildren compared to our youthful ability to do as we please can affect how we see policy, but I can guarentee that most don't want the state in their doctor's office regardless of how they feel financially. I think that is why it should be "It's abortion rights, stupid" and not "It's the economy, stupid". Times have changed! Let's hope it works!
Women—young or otherwise—are not “getting” much more liberal. They are becoming more aware of their worth and confident in their right to be respected. That shows up as “liberal” only because the system in which they live has been so restrictive and malignant
I wonder if there's any correlation between these numbers and the fact that young people are not getting married at the same rate they used to, and are waiting longer to get married.
Correlation or causation?
I don’t have the numbers at hand but the research I have read is that women are increasingly outperforming young men educationally. Scott Galloway talks about the way young men are falling behind. In my daughter’s law class at the University of Minnesota there were more women than men. She had also considered medical school 10 years ago and I saw that many medical schools also were admitting more women than men. Young men’s brains mature more slowly to their disadvantage academically. Women have become much more competitive. Galloway and others talk about how many young men are becoming disaffected and angry because they feel left behind. The right wing is really targeting this group.
Based totally on my daughters, I am not surprised! I sometimes describe my youngest daughter as an anarchist! Gaza is a HUGE issue for her. My oldest daughtyer--just slightly above this demographic, still liberal but not like her sister!
My thought is that these are the people who have seen their freedoms and rights under assault. They resonate with The Handmaid's Tale. They can see it!
Not the question is, how will it shape their vote? Will they vote on these issues? November will tell!
Wondering, if you know, the percentage of the electorate (those who vote or have voted) in that age and gender category? Young folks are traditionally the least likely to vote. Interesting to see how important those voters are statistically.
Usually between 17-20 of the overall electorate...
Good question Dutch. I have said all along, this election will depend on getting out the vote, and especially young women. If democrats can get young people out to vote in greater numbers they can win this election.
Yes, absolutely to a degree Doug. It also depends on where are they located. If young women come out and vote in force in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Georgia, and maybe Arizona and North Carolina - great for the Dems. If there is a bump in young women voting in California, New York, Washington, Oregon .... not so good for the dems, cuz these states are already a lock for the dems.
A bump up in Democratic voting in blue states isn't bad (or "not so good"). It can help on down ballot races and ballot questions. But, yes, for the presidential race we certainly want that increased turn out in swing states.
Good call out Daniel!
absolutely
Good question!
Chris,
I hear quite a bit about being a liberal vs conservative. Why is it that people feel that being a liberal is such a bad thing compared to being a conservative? I believe in having rules and regulations as well as boundaries. I want less government in what I do, but I want the government to govern, if that makes sense. Would you provide your take?
I am proud to say that as a 73 year old woman, I have always been and will forever be a liberal. Maybe it’s because my mother always worked and I never experienced her in the “traditional mother” role, or that she always encouraged me to think for myself, or that both my parents allowed me to read what I wanted, go to college wherever I wanted to and study what I wanted. Whatever it was, I’ve always leaned toward new ideas and ways of thinking. Even when I was younger I never understood people who proclaimed “The old ways are better”, “This is how we’ve always done it”,
“Don’t try new stuff, because you don’t know what might happen”. Nope…not for me. I spent my college years marching against the Vietnam War, for Migrant Rights, Womens Rights, & more. I’ve never voted for the “conservative” …and I’m certainly not going to start now!
More liberal. Or more informed.
Woman are and have been bringing their daughters up to "be anything they want to become. Sons have not enjoyed their mothers working outside the home and many now want them to be stay at home Moms.
I've said it on your Substack several times Chris...but today it bears saying again: It is the women of this country who will decide this election. Of course women are more liberal in their outlooks than men. We've had to be. We are the multitaskers of our families, and we are accustomed to being open to the most viable solution to everyday challenges, whatever may present itself on any given day.
I've also said it on your Substack several times, but today it bears saying again: Reproductive rights are THE most important issue on the ballot for the election. To recall the words of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, "Reproductive rights center on a woman’s autonomy to determine her life’s course, and thus to enjoy equal citizenship stature.”
It takes the willingness of a woman to see things from this perspective...it can be called liberal, or it can be called open-minded and sensible...and it will take a woman president to bring the freedom of reproductive rights to fruition.
But, you don't have to be liberal to oppose Donald Trump! DJT is not conservative!!!!
HRC calls President Trump a threat to the planet the day after someone was found plotting to kill him! She hasn’t a clue….
Gotta love CNNLOL, the lead right now is an apparent assignation attempt!