“Every liberal knows it,” former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has said. “They know that it's Kamala Harris that's going to end up being president of the United States if Joe Biden wins this election.”
We’ll see if maybe Kamala Harris looks better when the alternative is Kari Lake or Nikki Haley.
The Republican party has so thoroughly tied itself to Trump, MAGA, abortion restrictions, the destruction of constitutional values & the rule of law, and overall ugliness and bigotry, that for a lot of people, it doesn't matter what they think about Kamala Harris, because at least she's not pro-coup & insurrection, restricting free speech & other civil liberties, accusations gays of grooming... the list goes on and on.
Now it's a year later and you still believe she's not part of any coup (getting the nominee spot without votes after she has been lying about Bidens health for yaers, then when it's too late to vote she gets his spot), restricting free speech (shes been part of Biden regime that has been outed for doing just that to stifle talk about Covid release from lab that was caught being funded by US $ that was actively making Covid become easier "gain of function" to infect humans along with Fauci heading the team and providing misinformation which was proven to be true as well) .
On the topic of gays and other groups, she's stated that she's for performing sex change operations for inmates (using federal $). Has opened our boarders without any checks and they have misplaced over 100k babies and children from their parents allowed known criminals and terrorists in our country all in an effort to try and get as many immigrants as possible here so they will vote for Biden and Harris (they are trying to pass laws to allow illegals to vote this year while Trump has tried to pass laws that require a US citizen ID and they are fighting it. Who do you think she represents in our country?
She talks words that have no meaning and has no real plans set to do anything she claims after failing to even
Here's what I think. You know how Trump's staff kept him from doing the most awful things he wanted to do, like going to the Capitol on January 6. Well, if Kamala becomes President, she will have a staff in place to help her. I think she is smart, just not a great speaker. Any Democrat is better than having Trump as president again.
Some of it is that pundits won't stop writing articles about how deeply unpopular she is, just like they won't stop writing about how old Joe Biden is.
If you think public opinion isn't formed, at least partially, by how and what the media covers, I don't understand why you ever chose a career in the media.
It’s not that the press is lazy it’s that most press even the “good” press are still businesses that have to pay people and the “lazy press coverage” is just what does well.
I agree with your assessment with Harris but would put race/gender at about 60%. I absolutely think that they are a huge issue with many in this country. Race was a huge issue with Obama for much of the country and adding female with race, not acceptable in many eyes. I don’t see color that way, someone is up for the job based on qualifications, not race or gender in my opinion. While I didn’t follow Harris much, I did see her during the various hearings. I believe she was effective during the hearings but not quite ready for the Veep position. IMO, she put her hat in the ring in 2020 a bit too soon. I know the various reasons why some put their name in the ring, for example name recognition, but she wasn’t ready. She didn’t gain traction as a presidential candidate and, IMO, the wrong pick for Veep. She did stumble and that is on her and feel as though her focus should be working in lockstep with Biden. However, it is equally as important to put forth your goals for the future and to be defined as having qualifications to propel you into the presidency down the road. As well as being ready to take charge in case she needs to due to Biden’s health. I believe that in 2020 the country was ready for Biden due to the disaster of the Trump presidency. However, with different circumstances it could have gone differently and think of McCain picking Palin. Hoping that Harris doesn’t drag down Biden as I am terrified of what 2024 could look like.
I agree up to when you think 2024 would be bad if Biden lost. With everything Bidens done to remove our rights, you'd think we live under tyrannical rule (as described by our news in the past when telling us about other countries that have experienced the same exact methods of holding power. Not to mention quiet coup, blocking information, actively using courts as political weapons and possibly even assassination of the competition. The next step (after soliciting many armed attacks by citizens on citizens) is to get your weapons to complete the task in becoming a complete dictatorship.
It just seems different when you're actually living it, hearing it seems why worse than it is. And I'll bet you've watched the news and thought why do people put up with it? Now you can see how you're supporting it, of course having control of the news and media while censoring social media helps to hide this all, if you look you'll find the truth has been hidden just like in every other country who is losing their rights and being fed crap by their government.
As a female Democrat (who lived in CA until 2015), it’s really hard to see how poorly she is doing. The fact that she was such a poor presidential candidate made her choice as VP more confounding. I’m coming to the disappointing conclusion that she’s more of a show horse than a workhorse. The more the GOP runs against her in 2024 (i.e., assuming that Biden will die in office), the worse it’s going to be. I assume they have plenty of “Kamala said what?!” and “Kamala did what?!” at the ready.
Can't ignore the fact that she has ZERO charisma or speaking skills. Her oratory skills could be beat in Middle School. And virtually everyone is aware of how she started in politics. Who cares what color or gender, when she's clearly a pretender.
PLEASE find a first woman president. PLEASE! But find one that got there by herself. There are PLENTY of self-made women that would fit the bill.
Here's how Kamala Harris "started in politics", Kevin. While attending Howard University (1982-86), she worked as a mailroom clerk in Senator Alan Cranston's office. At the presitigious University of California Hastings College of the Law (1986-89), she was president of the Black Law Students Association.
After serving first as an Assistant San Francisco District Attorney (1998) and then as an Assistant City Attorney (2000), she ran and won her first elective office in 2003: San Francisco District Attorney. Four years later, she ran unopposed. In 2010, she was elected Attorney General of the State of California.
I assume the snide implication of your comment is that because, for a few months in 1994 (as a 29-year-old single woman) she dated the Speaker of the California State Assembly, her every accomplishment over the last 30 years is somehow tainted.
If you think she's unqualified, or you disagree with her positions, fine. But please spare us your misogynistic innuendos.
Read it again, is all I'll say. You can ONLY read it as misogynistic if you're TRYING to read it that way. My comments have NOTHING to do with her being a woman (I INVITED a female president and look forward to one) but since she is a female, you have to tag me with mis since I don't care for her. That's VERY weak thinking and analysis. The amazing thing is that you and Jerry didn't feel the need to call me racist, too. I mean, she's black and I don't like her, so I must be racist, right. See? Dumb.
Okay, Kevin. What is it about "how she started in politics" that everyone is aware of? That sure sounds exactly like the same sexist crap Mary's referring to, that I've heard about Vice President Harris every time she runs.
Wouldn’t some of the problem also be that she, like many VPs, has not been given enough of a stage to get out there to work it out and make herself known? She showed how strong she could be before. I have hope for her.
Given the fact that she's in charge of the boarded and has done nothing at all (even lacked visiting it ever) or the fact that she was in charge of the $42,000,000 budget to provide Internet to those who live rural or can't afford it has gone without a single household getting service. I don't think lack of opportunity has been her problem, it's the lack of effort she has shown that's provided her with an obvious lack of conviction to help the citizens of our nation.
I some ways, this is a similar conversation to the one around Hillary Clinton when she ran for President. Yes, misogyny was an issue for her campaign. As well as a lot of left-over anger from the Bill Clinton presidency. But Hillary also had some personality issues that weren't a function of her sex. As does Kamala Harris. Unfortunately, personality matters in presidential politics. And Harris is about as warm and personable as Mike Pence.
I would agree that is she is much smarter and arguably a better politician. But she also provokes an almost visceral reaction from some people. It's not fair and I don't know that people who have that reaction could describe precisely why they feel that way. But it's there and honestly, it's a subject that a lot of people don't want to get into to because of the many ways the discussion could go horribly wrong.
Hilary had to deal with the fact that she had been a punching bag for the right for over a decade. At some point the weight of repetition just gets overwhelming.
Does the fact that she is black and a woman really move the dial? My point is, wouldn't the people who don't like her for those reasons also not like her for many other reasons, so they would never be approve anyway? Is there really a ven diagram of people who would approve, but don't for only those reasons? I'm sure Biden is a massive drag on her, but she's also just not great, and that's a huge problem. We need Gavin and Gretchen to get moving, and I think they are.
Makes no difference to me who it is when they do nothing they have been assigned to, given the chance to rise up and prove their worth but then does nothing at all, I call it like I see it. One thing to remember is Biden was the one who is racist right from the start. He made it a point that his VP be a Black Woman. Said it straight up, not give me the best suited for the job, but rather went for a very obvious choice that would boost his votes based directly on sex and race!
In the beginning, Kamala looked great. Articulate, a woman of color, intelligent. I was on her team. But then she ran for pres and I've never seen such a low energy campaign. And kind of whiny. Biden needs to dump her second term. He'd get more votes.
We shouldn't be concerned about Kamala Harris unpopularity right now. Biden is going to win in 2024 and will continue to move the Country forward till 2028. IMO, that's when (2028) we should be talking about how popular or unpopular is Harris
Dr. I have to remind you to take a look at the news as or lately, factor in all that Bidens done to cripple our country and remove our rights, you'll notice that we're being fed lies on a regular basis. The news and media are not telling you the truth or at least are not telling you all the facts. As more and more reports or misconduct and plots to keep things covered up emerge it's clear that Bidens working his own hidden agenda but since he controls what you see and hear it will take a little bit of reading from government transcripts (that never reach the news) to reveal the true Biden Harris agenda .
As a Democrat, my complaints about Democrats, is that we are too busy trying to scoop up all the firsts. To make history. And, this may be the one time when people put more weight on the fact that the President will be 82. That scares me. It took a superhuman effort to remove the orange man from the White House. The prospect of doing it again is daunting. Especially with a drag on the ticket.
She is known for being a tough boss, with high turnover---that’s gotta affect her rep among the DC crowd who otherwise could sing her praises.
Also, she went out of her way to separate herself from the immigration issue, which she clearly considered to be a thankless assignment. She was right, but there was opportunity to shine in that crisis and she flinched. Did not help her relationship with Biden at the time either , per the CW inside the administration either.
I agree with your breakdown overall. She got my early support as a candidate but never gained any traction. I wish she was a better option to the likely two old, white men that will probably be running.
If Harris had been white and male or AOC she would have won. So while race and gender played a huge part of her loss, being a Biden Democrat rather than a Bernie or AOC or john fetterman was just too much to overcome. Like having three holes in your boat.
“Every liberal knows it,” former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has said. “They know that it's Kamala Harris that's going to end up being president of the United States if Joe Biden wins this election.”
We’ll see if maybe Kamala Harris looks better when the alternative is Kari Lake or Nikki Haley.
Don’t compare her to the Almighty, just compare her to the alternative.
No ,you did not make a good point Kevin. You made an EXCELLENT point!
You make a good point.
The Republican party has so thoroughly tied itself to Trump, MAGA, abortion restrictions, the destruction of constitutional values & the rule of law, and overall ugliness and bigotry, that for a lot of people, it doesn't matter what they think about Kamala Harris, because at least she's not pro-coup & insurrection, restricting free speech & other civil liberties, accusations gays of grooming... the list goes on and on.
Now it's a year later and you still believe she's not part of any coup (getting the nominee spot without votes after she has been lying about Bidens health for yaers, then when it's too late to vote she gets his spot), restricting free speech (shes been part of Biden regime that has been outed for doing just that to stifle talk about Covid release from lab that was caught being funded by US $ that was actively making Covid become easier "gain of function" to infect humans along with Fauci heading the team and providing misinformation which was proven to be true as well) .
On the topic of gays and other groups, she's stated that she's for performing sex change operations for inmates (using federal $). Has opened our boarders without any checks and they have misplaced over 100k babies and children from their parents allowed known criminals and terrorists in our country all in an effort to try and get as many immigrants as possible here so they will vote for Biden and Harris (they are trying to pass laws to allow illegals to vote this year while Trump has tried to pass laws that require a US citizen ID and they are fighting it. Who do you think she represents in our country?
She talks words that have no meaning and has no real plans set to do anything she claims after failing to even
Here's what I think. You know how Trump's staff kept him from doing the most awful things he wanted to do, like going to the Capitol on January 6. Well, if Kamala becomes President, she will have a staff in place to help her. I think she is smart, just not a great speaker. Any Democrat is better than having Trump as president again.
Some of it is that pundits won't stop writing articles about how deeply unpopular she is, just like they won't stop writing about how old Joe Biden is.
Ah yes. It’s the media’s fault!
If you think public opinion isn't formed, at least partially, by how and what the media covers, I don't understand why you ever chose a career in the media.
As a member of the media I have to say, part of it IS due to the lazy press coverage.
It’s not that the press is lazy it’s that most press even the “good” press are still businesses that have to pay people and the “lazy press coverage” is just what does well.
I agree with your assessment with Harris but would put race/gender at about 60%. I absolutely think that they are a huge issue with many in this country. Race was a huge issue with Obama for much of the country and adding female with race, not acceptable in many eyes. I don’t see color that way, someone is up for the job based on qualifications, not race or gender in my opinion. While I didn’t follow Harris much, I did see her during the various hearings. I believe she was effective during the hearings but not quite ready for the Veep position. IMO, she put her hat in the ring in 2020 a bit too soon. I know the various reasons why some put their name in the ring, for example name recognition, but she wasn’t ready. She didn’t gain traction as a presidential candidate and, IMO, the wrong pick for Veep. She did stumble and that is on her and feel as though her focus should be working in lockstep with Biden. However, it is equally as important to put forth your goals for the future and to be defined as having qualifications to propel you into the presidency down the road. As well as being ready to take charge in case she needs to due to Biden’s health. I believe that in 2020 the country was ready for Biden due to the disaster of the Trump presidency. However, with different circumstances it could have gone differently and think of McCain picking Palin. Hoping that Harris doesn’t drag down Biden as I am terrified of what 2024 could look like.
I agree up to when you think 2024 would be bad if Biden lost. With everything Bidens done to remove our rights, you'd think we live under tyrannical rule (as described by our news in the past when telling us about other countries that have experienced the same exact methods of holding power. Not to mention quiet coup, blocking information, actively using courts as political weapons and possibly even assassination of the competition. The next step (after soliciting many armed attacks by citizens on citizens) is to get your weapons to complete the task in becoming a complete dictatorship.
It just seems different when you're actually living it, hearing it seems why worse than it is. And I'll bet you've watched the news and thought why do people put up with it? Now you can see how you're supporting it, of course having control of the news and media while censoring social media helps to hide this all, if you look you'll find the truth has been hidden just like in every other country who is losing their rights and being fed crap by their government.
As a female Democrat (who lived in CA until 2015), it’s really hard to see how poorly she is doing. The fact that she was such a poor presidential candidate made her choice as VP more confounding. I’m coming to the disappointing conclusion that she’s more of a show horse than a workhorse. The more the GOP runs against her in 2024 (i.e., assuming that Biden will die in office), the worse it’s going to be. I assume they have plenty of “Kamala said what?!” and “Kamala did what?!” at the ready.
Can't ignore the fact that she has ZERO charisma or speaking skills. Her oratory skills could be beat in Middle School. And virtually everyone is aware of how she started in politics. Who cares what color or gender, when she's clearly a pretender.
PLEASE find a first woman president. PLEASE! But find one that got there by herself. There are PLENTY of self-made women that would fit the bill.
Here's how Kamala Harris "started in politics", Kevin. While attending Howard University (1982-86), she worked as a mailroom clerk in Senator Alan Cranston's office. At the presitigious University of California Hastings College of the Law (1986-89), she was president of the Black Law Students Association.
After serving first as an Assistant San Francisco District Attorney (1998) and then as an Assistant City Attorney (2000), she ran and won her first elective office in 2003: San Francisco District Attorney. Four years later, she ran unopposed. In 2010, she was elected Attorney General of the State of California.
I assume the snide implication of your comment is that because, for a few months in 1994 (as a 29-year-old single woman) she dated the Speaker of the California State Assembly, her every accomplishment over the last 30 years is somehow tainted.
If you think she's unqualified, or you disagree with her positions, fine. But please spare us your misogynistic innuendos.
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To get to misogynistic, you had to intentionally ignore everything I said. That's the way dumb people debate. Are you dumb?
I thought your comment was misogynistic too, fwiw, and that Jerry's rebuttal was not dumb. But I'm a woman, so what do I know?
Read it again, is all I'll say. You can ONLY read it as misogynistic if you're TRYING to read it that way. My comments have NOTHING to do with her being a woman (I INVITED a female president and look forward to one) but since she is a female, you have to tag me with mis since I don't care for her. That's VERY weak thinking and analysis. The amazing thing is that you and Jerry didn't feel the need to call me racist, too. I mean, she's black and I don't like her, so I must be racist, right. See? Dumb.
Okay, Kevin. What is it about "how she started in politics" that everyone is aware of? That sure sounds exactly like the same sexist crap Mary's referring to, that I've heard about Vice President Harris every time she runs.
If you meant something else, what is it?
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Suggesting a woman only got where she is by sleeping with people is textbook misogyny, Kevin.
Which is pretty much what Jerry told you too.
Wouldn’t some of the problem also be that she, like many VPs, has not been given enough of a stage to get out there to work it out and make herself known? She showed how strong she could be before. I have hope for her.
Given the fact that she's in charge of the boarded and has done nothing at all (even lacked visiting it ever) or the fact that she was in charge of the $42,000,000 budget to provide Internet to those who live rural or can't afford it has gone without a single household getting service. I don't think lack of opportunity has been her problem, it's the lack of effort she has shown that's provided her with an obvious lack of conviction to help the citizens of our nation.
I some ways, this is a similar conversation to the one around Hillary Clinton when she ran for President. Yes, misogyny was an issue for her campaign. As well as a lot of left-over anger from the Bill Clinton presidency. But Hillary also had some personality issues that weren't a function of her sex. As does Kamala Harris. Unfortunately, personality matters in presidential politics. And Harris is about as warm and personable as Mike Pence.
That is deeply unfair... to Harris. Pence is an inert, sycophantic prig. Yes, she's had her stumbles, but she is head and shoulders above Pence.
I would agree that is she is much smarter and arguably a better politician. But she also provokes an almost visceral reaction from some people. It's not fair and I don't know that people who have that reaction could describe precisely why they feel that way. But it's there and honestly, it's a subject that a lot of people don't want to get into to because of the many ways the discussion could go horribly wrong.
You really have zero clue, Hilary simply proved she couldn't be trusted.
Hilary had to deal with the fact that she had been a punching bag for the right for over a decade. At some point the weight of repetition just gets overwhelming.
Does the fact that she is black and a woman really move the dial? My point is, wouldn't the people who don't like her for those reasons also not like her for many other reasons, so they would never be approve anyway? Is there really a ven diagram of people who would approve, but don't for only those reasons? I'm sure Biden is a massive drag on her, but she's also just not great, and that's a huge problem. We need Gavin and Gretchen to get moving, and I think they are.
Makes no difference to me who it is when they do nothing they have been assigned to, given the chance to rise up and prove their worth but then does nothing at all, I call it like I see it. One thing to remember is Biden was the one who is racist right from the start. He made it a point that his VP be a Black Woman. Said it straight up, not give me the best suited for the job, but rather went for a very obvious choice that would boost his votes based directly on sex and race!
In the beginning, Kamala looked great. Articulate, a woman of color, intelligent. I was on her team. But then she ran for pres and I've never seen such a low energy campaign. And kind of whiny. Biden needs to dump her second term. He'd get more votes.
I wish someone would let me know her actual accomplishments as an elected official. Not ones she takes credit for, but ones she actually led.
We shouldn't be concerned about Kamala Harris unpopularity right now. Biden is going to win in 2024 and will continue to move the Country forward till 2028. IMO, that's when (2028) we should be talking about how popular or unpopular is Harris
Dr. I have to remind you to take a look at the news as or lately, factor in all that Bidens done to cripple our country and remove our rights, you'll notice that we're being fed lies on a regular basis. The news and media are not telling you the truth or at least are not telling you all the facts. As more and more reports or misconduct and plots to keep things covered up emerge it's clear that Bidens working his own hidden agenda but since he controls what you see and hear it will take a little bit of reading from government transcripts (that never reach the news) to reveal the true Biden Harris agenda .
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Go look at some actuarial tables.
As a Democrat, my complaints about Democrats, is that we are too busy trying to scoop up all the firsts. To make history. And, this may be the one time when people put more weight on the fact that the President will be 82. That scares me. It took a superhuman effort to remove the orange man from the White House. The prospect of doing it again is daunting. Especially with a drag on the ticket.
She is known for being a tough boss, with high turnover---that’s gotta affect her rep among the DC crowd who otherwise could sing her praises.
Also, she went out of her way to separate herself from the immigration issue, which she clearly considered to be a thankless assignment. She was right, but there was opportunity to shine in that crisis and she flinched. Did not help her relationship with Biden at the time either , per the CW inside the administration either.
I agree with your breakdown overall. She got my early support as a candidate but never gained any traction. I wish she was a better option to the likely two old, white men that will probably be running.
Signed,
A Kinda Old White Guy
If Harris had been white and male or AOC she would have won. So while race and gender played a huge part of her loss, being a Biden Democrat rather than a Bernie or AOC or john fetterman was just too much to overcome. Like having three holes in your boat.