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It would be nice if you spent some time talking about trump's age and health. Plus the things trump says and messes up is not the actions of a person who is all there.

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I mention in the piece that voters have FAR less concern about Trump's age and health. That is just a fact, As for covering Trump, well, I feel like I do a whole hell of a lot of that.

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It is only a fact because main stream media let trump alone and only beat up on Biden.

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No, it's a fact because Trump - as much as I hate him - doesn't seem as old. And there are some many other things on which to knock Trump- including his myriad crimes & abuses of women- before one even gets to Trump's age. Biden's age and the Hunter issues are real problems for Ds .Many seem to be in denial. It should be a clear call to reject Trump, but these issues give middle of the road people a chance to say "what about" and vote R. It's not a good answer to say "what about" Trump in return. Biden has done a great job. But he was supposed to be transitional and should now step aside. Whitmer , Klobuchar, Shapiro, Polis, and several others would beat Trump soundly. But the polls show Joe's vulnerabilities create the risk of a disastrous reprise of Trump's reign of idiocy and incompetence

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Todd, I think you are exactly right. For whatever reason, people are much less concerned about Trump's age and health-- despite the fact he is decidedly unhealthy!

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People are more concerned about Trump's criminal indictments ,his tumultuous chaotic and corrupt Presidency that his age and how he looks is less of a concern.

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Not too long ago about 64% of the population said they will not vote for Trump. I don't see how he can win with 36% of the votes. Not even with the Faulty Electoral college

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Check out the picture of Trump that accompanies this article. This is more what he looks like when he doesn’t spend the day primping for a mug shot. Put this picture on a t-shirt or coffee mug.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-gripes-truth-social-indictments-192829393.html

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I'll have you know Donald Trump is a perfectly healthy 6'3" and 215 pounds.

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Ahem. You forgot to add :

... 215 pounds *gassy shitbag*

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Laughable.....

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Yeah, I am calling BS on that one.

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President Biden, who is a very few months older than me, has done EXACTLY what I wanted him to do when I voted for him last time. When we all get in the voting booth we will have two options. Option #1 will be to vote for the incumbent who has put the NATO alliance back together, effectively led the campaign against Russia in Ukraine, led the party that leads the pro-choixe battle, fought for justice for all Americans, brought us out of the pandemic, rescued the economy and brought a highly talented and effective team of leaders into our government. Option #2 will be to vote for someone who has done NONE of these things and, in fact, advocates against them. Maybe it will be Trump. Maybe not. But it will be someone unacceptable to a significant majority of American voters and President Biden, highly competent and highly successful, will win another term and go down in history as a great US president.

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Ok, Wayne! That is one take!

All I will say is that if Biden and Trump are the nominees -- and I think they will be -- it's going to be a very close election.

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It was a close call in 2020 and Bidenhi won.Since then, there has been Bidenomics, the termination of Roe v Wade and Trump's January 6th insurrection and Trump's multiple criminal indictments etc. All these are going to be considered ( including Biden's and Trump's age that some people are obsessed with. The 2024 election is going to be close but again Biden is going to win.

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Thank you Mr. Wayne Corey. You took those words and thought from my tongue and mind.

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Totally agree, Chris. If I were asked the same question, I would also say that both Biden and Trump were too old. But if there is a binary choice between "old and evil" and "slightly older and decent", I would take "decent" every time. I hope that the majority of Americans, in the right combination of electoral college votes, feel the same way

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That is the fundamental question of the race. Between a politician who they believe to be too old and one they believe to be corrupt, who do swing voters choose?

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Most Americans are going to do the same in 2024. You watch sir.

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I sincerely hope you are right, Dr. Ibrahim! To me, this is a moral litmus test for our country.

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I couldn't agree more sir Mr Andy Kricum

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Once evil enters the equation, age goes out the window. I'm going with the not-evil guy.

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Yes, Biden is going to have to address the age issue head on, and it's fair to report that this is a concern of voters. But let's put that in the context of Trump's manic raving in his videos and "Truth [sic] Social" posts. If there is anyone clearly around the bend, it is Trump, not Biden.

Also, Nikki Haley should be called out for her ageist bigotry. The hypocritical snowflake was SO upset when Don Lemon called her "past her prime" yet has no problem saying worse about Biden.

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"[L]et's put that in the context of Trump's manic raving in his videos and "Truth [sic] Social" posts. If there is anyone clearly around the bend, it is Trump, not Biden."

To be fair, Chris covers Trump's "manic raving" quite a bit. Saying that polls show a lot of voters think Biden is too old (a statement of fact) does not in any way celebrate Trump's actions. Two things can be true at the same time.

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That wasn't intended as a shot at Chris but at the media in general. Trump is clearly disconnected from reality and yet is covered as "well, that's Trump being Trump." The man is clearly mentally ill and should not be treated as simply eccentric.

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Yes, Biden has slowed down. But Trump is not exactly a picture of health (cough, 215 pounds my ass, cough). You can pretty much bet on anything these days. If somebody wants to give me 4-1 or 5-1 odds that Trump will die before Biden, I would take that in a heartbeat. I'm guessing he will age even more quickly in prison.

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And listen to Trump! He is anything but a picture (sound bite?) of mental acuity! He is incapable of uttering a complete sentence! Not only is he the master of word salad, but he flips even softball interview questions into nonsense about his favorite old-man peeves like water pressure in showers, light bulbs, windmills, etc.

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Trump as never had the ability to present a more than one second coherent thought (except when reading from a teleprompter - and sometimes not even then). He’s an idiot, but his hate makes him god to his supporters.

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An unspoken issue with Biden's age is the current VP, who is broadly unpopular with voters. Does anyone really believe Biden's age would be this big of a problem, if the VP was extremely popular with voters?

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That is a VERY good point. I think the concerns over Harris's readiness -- and the fact that she is broadly disliked by Republicans - -fuels concerns over Biden's health and age.

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I don't expect Republicans to ever like any Democrat's VP. So it's pointless to say that Harris is not broadly liked by the Republicans. I also don't expect Democrats to like Republicans VP either. Chris can ask you sir what exactly is wrong with Biden's health? You always say Biden's health and age. I know he has Atrial fibrillation. Do you know of any ailments that Biden has?

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You make fair points re VP Harris. I like her and think she is skilled. But the negative reaction to her is pervasive. And, to be frank, Biden's admin did her no favors by assigning her only thankless tasks-e.g, the border, as to which she had no way of succeeding. As to Biden's age/health, can one seriously deny that the prospect of a POTUS in the mid-80s is troubling?

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Can someone please tell me what is wrong with Biden's health

Or are people just unfairly trying to create an illusion of ill health of Biden in voters' mind?

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I agree with almost everything good one can say about Joe Biden's term, and I agree with the myriad bad things one can say about Trump and his term. But one of the cardinal mistakes one can make in politics in bathing in the warmth of views one finds pleasing. Too many people do that- and that is one truth that applies to left and right. Ds are , in the main, glossing over the polls reflecting deep concern about another Biden term, and we do so at our peril-- or more precisely at the world's peril.

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Infuriating, especially given Trump’s age, impending senility, and criminal history. Also, his verbal slips are related to his stuttering, which he controls remarkably well. We must fight back on this.

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So Nikki Haley can imagine herself as a perfectly good president but Kamala Harris would be somehow a disaster? You'd expect that from the misogynistic males in the Republican party but it's disappointing to see this attitude in another woman.

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Just uneducated sour grapes / sour gripes.

And old punjabi girl...

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Perception is the key, IMO. Biden is 80 and it may well show in areas, however, Trump is only a few years younger and may well look a bit younger. The caveat is that Trump does things to project looking younger (vain?), such as coloring his hair, the ridiculous combover, looking orange with the make up, etc. I do think that Trumps age should be brought up more, however, Trumps legal issues are far more important than age at this point. Would I prefer Biden not run? Yes. However, age is only part of the equation to me. I think he has done a good job, he’s a gentleman, he’s human and has faults and he puts country before party. I believe Biden was the right choice in 2020 but think that he should step aside and let a younger candidate emerge. It is said that that would put Trump in the White House, I am not sure of that.

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Elaine, I think that is a very common sentiment. But, Biden is going to run again...so people will have to decide how much his age really does matter.

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Biden's age is not going to be considered in a vacuum by the Independents who will decide this election in 2924. Other factors like Bidenomics, Abortion and of course Trump are going to go into the equation as well in considering who will lead this great country.

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Always a pleasure to read your posts! But, speaking haltingly is not always a sign of age but is many times a sign of a stutterer. I am a former stutterer and sometimes will "halt"!

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Fair enough! I know Biden's speaking style is affected by his childhood stutter. I also do think, however, he is speaking more and more slowly -- and moving more and more slowly -- than he was even a few years ago.

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As am I, but I'm only in my 60s not my 80s. After a certain point we all slow down as we age. And given that Biden has surrounded himself with a competent staff whose advice will inform his decisions and policies, I'll allow him the occasional pause and bobbled word while arriving, in conjunction with his cabinet, at the correct decision rather that face that blithering idiot spouting "I alone can fix this" and "I know more than the generals".

My grandmother always said "two heads are better than one, even if one is a cabbage". Don't go it alone.

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I have been a Dem since my first election for LBJ and never voted Republican. I think he has to quit soon. With his age of 82 when elected and his frail-ness and mental acuity undoubtedly worse by then, with Powell pushing hard on raising interest rates, even if that ends soon, and Hunter problems, the Republicans will have too much to use against him. We know so much of their claims are false Get out now and get a candidate Democrats can get behind and start pushing. There are only 14 months till Nov5, 2024. Yikes! Someone who can hopefully keep most of the current diversity and add youth. I know, wishful thinking but we can’t just sit still and keep hoping voters will vote for lesser of two evils. A cabinet Member, a senator, a governor, a representative? Surely the dems aren’t that bereft of good people. This is already too long so I will stop and let those in the know come up with ideas.

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There are plenty of Ds who would be solid candidates if Biden stepped aside. Gretchen Whitmer is a very popular governor in a purple state and has excellent political skills. Others include Amy Klobuchar, Jared Polis, Josh Shapiro, Jay Pritzker, Gavin Newsome, and yes, Kamala Harris.

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Most of them would work for me but Biden has to resign before anything can happen.

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No, he doesn't have to resign. He would just need not to seek re-election .LBJ did something quite similar after the New Hampshire primary

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You are right. I didn’t mean resign and turn over to Kamala.Terrible word choice. I meant what you said. Thanks for this post.

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I wish that President Biden and the Democratic Party leaders would listen to you.

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Dem PACs should just start carpet bombing the airwaves with dated samples of the word salad that comes out of Trump’s mouth. The media and his handlers often clean it up before reprinting transcripts, but I honestly think they’re doing us a disservice as to just how incoherent he is. Jon Oliver once described it, “That is not a functional use of language, that’s a drunk driver crashing a pickup truck full of alphabet soup.” This is an area where I’m completely okay with not taking the high ground.

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I hope we both get our wish in Nov 2024, Dr. Ibrahim!

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