Yes, the Dems collectively realized that Biden was no longer up for four more years and asked him to step aside. Eventually he agreed and, as a party, now we are in a far better place going into November. But isn't this thread about Trump?
Yes, the Dems collectively realized that Biden was no longer up for four more years and asked him to step aside. Eventually he agreed and, as a party, now we are in a far better place going into November. But isn't this thread about Trump?
Yes, “the Dems” did make that decision, never mind the 14 million US citizens that voted for JB to be on the ticket. Something just doesn’t smell right about that.
I understand what you’re saying. If Harris gets less than 14 million votes in the general election, I will come back here and say Dutch was right about this.
Yes, I know it. But you’re only defending these 14 million votes because you want Biden to be the nominee so your candidate wins. I get it. At the same time, you like Biden for putting up so much resistance to leaving but you also think he should be removed because of the 25th amendment. That is also apples and oranges logic.
And you know that the dems replaced Biden by the pre approved rules of the DNC.
Also, 80 million voters voted for Biden/Harris. Harris is doing what she was voted VP to do, to step up to be Prez if necessary.
The dem primaries were for Biden, AND Harris as his running mate.
This is an old tired argument of yours that has gone nowhere since it first was proposed.
Besides, we ALL know that maga does not put any weight to, or respect for, election results, so your crying for dems not having a chance to vote to reject Harris as the nominee is hilarious and pathetic at the same time
No, I don't agree. If Biden didn't choose to step down, he would have been the nominee. The delegates were his, fair and square. Once he decided not to run, the Democratic delegates had to replace him. There was no time to hold another nationwide primary. If something unexpected had happened to Trump after the primaries but before the convention, the GOP would have been in the same boat. The Republican delegates would have chosen a different nominee. What else could be done?
He didn’t want to step aside, everyone knows that, he said so “unless the Lord Almighty” tells him he was gonna stay in. He was forced. No room to argue that point
Yes, he didn't want to step aside and he was under pressure from some members of his party (many disagreed). But at the end of the day, it was his decision. If he had gone to the convention as the presumptive nominee with delegates earned in the primaries, do you really doubt that he would have been nominated? Those delegates were mostly chosen because Biden was their guy. Nancy and I disagreed with the choice, but we would have lost that argument.
He is the President of the USA, and the leader of the Democratic party. No one can force him out unless he was breaking Constititiional laws..
He chose to end his campaign for reelection.
And, how do you know God almighty did not tell him to end the campaign? Biden said it was his decision. Despite his earlier resolve to stay in the campaign, he changed his mind. That's what responsible adults do, they evaluate changing circumstances and change course when circumstances dictate change is needed.
And geez, get a clue, not one democrat has complained about the process used to put Harris at the top of the campaign, only maga who do not honor or respect elections are crying about it, lol!!
While Dutch may post misinformation and maga talking points in order to rile people up, I see no evidence of Dutch attacking people or posting derogatory comments in hopes of offending people or misleading people, as trolls are defined. And Dutch does not appear to be a Russian troll.
I appreciate how Dutch wants to make a case for his/her side, and how, sometimes, there may even be some small grain of truth imbedded in his/her maga view, and, I like the challenge to either refute that grain of truth with a bigger picture view, or to strengthen my own arguments in order to counter the maga points.
I also no not ever go to right wing or maga sites to see what they are all talking about in their often fact-free universe. So I appreciate getting bits of that here in Dutch's posts, that are not full of anger, abuse or hatred. I find it entertaining, and sometimes even a learning experience.
If I ever tire of seeing views expressed that are different from mine, or feel that Dutch is just trolling, I will heed your advice and block. Thanks.
Your opinion unless you can confirm through medical chart. Many disagree with you. That is our opinion. Biden has provided statements from doctors. You could say that doctors are lying. Your opinion. You think Trump is super human. That is my opinion of how you tout his presidency if elected in your comments. Many here disagree. That is our opinion. This Trump presidency that you say is coming better be really excellent and all fixed following the 24 hours after inauguration and should be all rainbows and sunshine for four years.
Like good old Rush Limbaugh used to say, I live it realville. He stepped down due to immense pressure from the party bc he was losing and losing very badly. The debate cemented this decision. The American people saw through the lie that was being told, he’s so much better behind closed doors, liberal SNL even mocked that idea! He was forced out! Dems glad he’s gone! They were looking at a Reagan landslide all over again if he stayed.
We've moved on stating as one of the 14 million. Time for you to catch up with the other 13,999,999 people and let go of the Dem and Independent past. November 5 is the only true day that counts. You hold such promise and said so much on your candidate. Great! Looking forward to seeing your candidate delivering all the goods 24 days after inauguration if elected and that the new world order of sunshine and lollipops happens each and every day as you said. It is your word through context and intent. I'm still skeptical but you have all the confidence. It's terrible exciting to know that all 300+ million people in USA are going to rich beyond our dreams and we finally have peace on earth through Trump on day after he does his' I'm a dictator' thingy. You said and it will be so.
Yes, the Dems collectively realized that Biden was no longer up for four more years and asked him to step aside. Eventually he agreed and, as a party, now we are in a far better place going into November. But isn't this thread about Trump?
Yes, “the Dems” did make that decision, never mind the 14 million US citizens that voted for JB to be on the ticket. Something just doesn’t smell right about that.
You can agree?
I understand what you’re saying. If Harris gets less than 14 million votes in the general election, I will come back here and say Dutch was right about this.
Ryan,
You are comparing apples and oranges and you know it.
Yes, I know it. But you’re only defending these 14 million votes because you want Biden to be the nominee so your candidate wins. I get it. At the same time, you like Biden for putting up so much resistance to leaving but you also think he should be removed because of the 25th amendment. That is also apples and oranges logic.
Ryan, "Dutch" is a Trump troll afraid, as most of them are, of using his real name. He is best ignored.
And you know that the dems replaced Biden by the pre approved rules of the DNC.
Also, 80 million voters voted for Biden/Harris. Harris is doing what she was voted VP to do, to step up to be Prez if necessary.
The dem primaries were for Biden, AND Harris as his running mate.
This is an old tired argument of yours that has gone nowhere since it first was proposed.
Besides, we ALL know that maga does not put any weight to, or respect for, election results, so your crying for dems not having a chance to vote to reject Harris as the nominee is hilarious and pathetic at the same time
No, I don't agree. If Biden didn't choose to step down, he would have been the nominee. The delegates were his, fair and square. Once he decided not to run, the Democratic delegates had to replace him. There was no time to hold another nationwide primary. If something unexpected had happened to Trump after the primaries but before the convention, the GOP would have been in the same boat. The Republican delegates would have chosen a different nominee. What else could be done?
He didn’t want to step aside, everyone knows that, he said so “unless the Lord Almighty” tells him he was gonna stay in. He was forced. No room to argue that point
Yes, he didn't want to step aside and he was under pressure from some members of his party (many disagreed). But at the end of the day, it was his decision. If he had gone to the convention as the presumptive nominee with delegates earned in the primaries, do you really doubt that he would have been nominated? Those delegates were mostly chosen because Biden was their guy. Nancy and I disagreed with the choice, but we would have lost that argument.
Yes, his decision with a figurative gun to his head.
He was, in reality, forced out and with good reason. He is not competent to do the job now let alone years from now.
Lol. There is no way anyone could force him out. You should keep your fantasies to yourself.
Really?
Yes.
He is the President of the USA, and the leader of the Democratic party. No one can force him out unless he was breaking Constititiional laws..
He chose to end his campaign for reelection.
And, how do you know God almighty did not tell him to end the campaign? Biden said it was his decision. Despite his earlier resolve to stay in the campaign, he changed his mind. That's what responsible adults do, they evaluate changing circumstances and change course when circumstances dictate change is needed.
And geez, get a clue, not one democrat has complained about the process used to put Harris at the top of the campaign, only maga who do not honor or respect elections are crying about it, lol!!
Dutch is a troll. Admit that, block him (her?) as I have, and move on!
While Dutch may post misinformation and maga talking points in order to rile people up, I see no evidence of Dutch attacking people or posting derogatory comments in hopes of offending people or misleading people, as trolls are defined. And Dutch does not appear to be a Russian troll.
I appreciate how Dutch wants to make a case for his/her side, and how, sometimes, there may even be some small grain of truth imbedded in his/her maga view, and, I like the challenge to either refute that grain of truth with a bigger picture view, or to strengthen my own arguments in order to counter the maga points.
I also no not ever go to right wing or maga sites to see what they are all talking about in their often fact-free universe. So I appreciate getting bits of that here in Dutch's posts, that are not full of anger, abuse or hatred. I find it entertaining, and sometimes even a learning experience.
If I ever tire of seeing views expressed that are different from mine, or feel that Dutch is just trolling, I will heed your advice and block. Thanks.
Your opinion unless you can confirm through medical chart. Many disagree with you. That is our opinion. Biden has provided statements from doctors. You could say that doctors are lying. Your opinion. You think Trump is super human. That is my opinion of how you tout his presidency if elected in your comments. Many here disagree. That is our opinion. This Trump presidency that you say is coming better be really excellent and all fixed following the 24 hours after inauguration and should be all rainbows and sunshine for four years.
Like good old Rush Limbaugh used to say, I live it realville. He stepped down due to immense pressure from the party bc he was losing and losing very badly. The debate cemented this decision. The American people saw through the lie that was being told, he’s so much better behind closed doors, liberal SNL even mocked that idea! He was forced out! Dems glad he’s gone! They were looking at a Reagan landslide all over again if he stayed.
We've moved on stating as one of the 14 million. Time for you to catch up with the other 13,999,999 people and let go of the Dem and Independent past. November 5 is the only true day that counts. You hold such promise and said so much on your candidate. Great! Looking forward to seeing your candidate delivering all the goods 24 days after inauguration if elected and that the new world order of sunshine and lollipops happens each and every day as you said. It is your word through context and intent. I'm still skeptical but you have all the confidence. It's terrible exciting to know that all 300+ million people in USA are going to rich beyond our dreams and we finally have peace on earth through Trump on day after he does his' I'm a dictator' thingy. You said and it will be so.